請不要用假裝討論來包裝你的歧視 - 閒聊
By Sarah
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你的論點我大致上認同,
不過也是有幾個地方要澄清。
※ 引述《bukkake0103 (米分糸工→甜心)》之銘言:
: → Anderens:擔大部分社會功能的,因此被認為是正常的,但畢竟和異性
: → Anderens:戀天生就有相應的身體比起來..還是不完整的吧?!
: 異性戀完整,同性戀不完整 其實就是 歧視性言論
: 從這句看得出來她認為同性戀跟異性戀相比,是有某些部分不夠"圓滿"或"遜色"
: 那他說同性戀不正常時內心是甚麼想法?總不會前一秒還認為同性戀不夠"圓滿"或"遜色"
: 下一秒突然變得非常中立不帶有任何意識形態 單純陳述同性戀是統計上少數吧?
: 更何況A自己後來補充過 他所謂不正常的意思是
: 相對於"男女結合是天性"而言 同性戀不正常 意思不就是同性戀不是天性?
: 這樣還不算有歧視性意識形態 那你對歧視這兩個字的定義就跟我學的不一樣
我的確不是因為「多數少數」、「統計學理由」這方面去認定正不正常。
但我也不認為,離開這方面,就代表是歧視。
舉個例子:
1.如果有身、心障礙的朋友,從身心的適性來看,他的確是相對不完整或是遜色。
但我不會看到身心障礙就去排擠他、汙辱他、欺負他。
2.單親家庭的小孩,從家庭完整性來說,是不完整的沒錯吧!?
但是你看到單親家庭的小孩,你會去歧視他嗎?
因此我的言論算是歧視嗎?
要檢討的是,那些以不正常心態去壓迫同性戀者的那種作為,
而不是否認別人不能認為不完整的理論和想法。
--
唐 柳宗元《江雪》:
「千山鳥飛絕,萬徑人蹤滅;
孤舟簑笠翁,獨釣寒江雪。」
--
不過也是有幾個地方要澄清。
※ 引述《bukkake0103 (米分糸工→甜心)》之銘言:
: → Anderens:擔大部分社會功能的,因此被認為是正常的,但畢竟和異性
: → Anderens:戀天生就有相應的身體比起來..還是不完整的吧?!
: 異性戀完整,同性戀不完整 其實就是 歧視性言論
: 從這句看得出來她認為同性戀跟異性戀相比,是有某些部分不夠"圓滿"或"遜色"
: 那他說同性戀不正常時內心是甚麼想法?總不會前一秒還認為同性戀不夠"圓滿"或"遜色"
: 下一秒突然變得非常中立不帶有任何意識形態 單純陳述同性戀是統計上少數吧?
: 更何況A自己後來補充過 他所謂不正常的意思是
: 相對於"男女結合是天性"而言 同性戀不正常 意思不就是同性戀不是天性?
: 這樣還不算有歧視性意識形態 那你對歧視這兩個字的定義就跟我學的不一樣
我的確不是因為「多數少數」、「統計學理由」這方面去認定正不正常。
但我也不認為,離開這方面,就代表是歧視。
舉個例子:
1.如果有身、心障礙的朋友,從身心的適性來看,他的確是相對不完整或是遜色。
但我不會看到身心障礙就去排擠他、汙辱他、欺負他。
2.單親家庭的小孩,從家庭完整性來說,是不完整的沒錯吧!?
但是你看到單親家庭的小孩,你會去歧視他嗎?
因此我的言論算是歧視嗎?
要檢討的是,那些以不正常心態去壓迫同性戀者的那種作為,
而不是否認別人不能認為不完整的理論和想法。
--
唐 柳宗元《江雪》:
「千山鳥飛絕,萬徑人蹤滅;
孤舟簑笠翁,獨釣寒江雪。」
--
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