關於如果被無故刪文水桶及劣退自濟方式 - 台中
By Audriana
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今天要寫一篇比較嚴肅點的文章
或許有人覺得沒什麼,或許有人心有戚戚焉
(我真的收到好多版友詢問關於提告以及相關流程,所以我直接發表)
首先,我想要表達,不要無故走司法訴訟,
如果可以,當然還是盡量跟版主以及組務溝通,甚至法務檢舉
而如果以上,或是在第一關卡就已經碰壁到直接想透過司法
前提是
您必須在沒有違反任何一版的版規(包含這個台中版)以及PTT使用者條款
如果您是違反版規或是使用者條款
不要說申訴一定被駁回,如果走司法也是浪費時間
以下
是水桶會收到的制式公告內容
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此乃本站與您之民事關係,
水桶或暫停發言設定、刪文設定、退文設定等,
乃本站依民事契約終止部分原先無償提供予您之服務,
板主所為此類設定非為無權或無故,
應無由成立刑法妨礙電腦使用罪、公然侮辱罪、誹謗罪。
請勿濫行提告。
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而,
"板主所為此類設定非為無權或無故,
應無由成立刑法妨礙電腦使用罪、公然侮辱罪、誹謗罪。"
請細看"版主所為此類設定非為無權或無故",這行代表視同在版規制訂需註明違反原因
例如:我發表請益,台中版主為何刪除我文章,被依照版規1.1處置並劣退
(對不起,我真的只想的到這譬喻)
在版規1.1裡,甚至是其他版則裡以及"請益"規範裡
完全沒提到"詢問版主為何刪除文章"是違反版規,並且也沒版則提到
"詢問版主為何刪除文章"就是『劣退、水桶、刪文』這麼重大懲罰
而如果此時溝通及申訴未果,真的想要走司法還公道時
請附上被水桶或刪文或劣退的原因,再把被處置該條的版規附上
以及被水桶或劣退跟刪文的訊息附上
"最重要的還要附上在版面上被水桶的公告截圖"
然後請再附上最重要的"PTT使用者條款第8條"
這可以代表,PTT雖是免費服務平台,但是不代表底下管理者,版主,有超龐大權力
這到了地檢時,因為水桶都會有公告,
這已經觸犯了公然侮辱罪及誹謗(因為沒錯還要被水桶公告)
大多檢察官會詢問是否要多提訴公然侮辱及誹謗
這就看各位了
至於提告刑責有哪些,妨害電腦使用罪一定有,強制罪也一定有
因為沒有違反版規及站規前提下,不得刪除使用者文章及推文
而如果被水桶甚至劣退,因為妨害了使用者的行使發言及推文權益,所以有構成
至於未違反版規及站規前提下,被水桶公告,公然侮辱及誹謗也有
↑↑↑
以上,可以至台中法院服務中心找免費法律諮詢律師,一天20位民眾名額
以及到地檢服務處找訴訟輔導書記官,還有律師工會的法律討論版
均可得到以上答案
但是我還是要再次說,如果是自己違反的情況下,被處分
請自己負責任一點,不要找版主跟組務的麻煩,
而如果想用訴訟來讓版主及組務驚嚇,請小心"誣告罪",這比強制罪重非常多倍
接下來說我心中想法
這幾天,我也看見一些不知情的台中版民力挺或是莫名其妙而敲訊問我發生什麼事
因為大多版友其實沒有爬文的習慣,就算有,也被複雜文字而錯以為這邊很公正
但是我想跟某位"女生"說
我不知道您當初是怎麼聽當事人說的,我只能說,他所說的跟事實差距非常大
包括當初往來訊息如何,以及發生始末
您們現實生活上是朋友,但是因為您,您對一些人說出他所說給您聽的不實事實
導致我真的受到很大排擠壓力,包括一些曾經聊得很開的也都誤會我
但是我至今一切都不選擇解釋,因為我反而覺得您很倒霉,有這樣的朋友
這讓我反而覺得,您如果可以這麼輕易相信造謠,而沒看見我文字常透露出的片段
我也不與您這種人交朋友
另外
而版主的確不好當,我就擔任過巴哈姆特,為何我擔任了五年多都沒事?
是我因為工作升為領班,才辭職版主職位
而要管理本來就是盡量要創造雙贏,也就是版主跟版友盡量都不要對立
而做一個版主最忌諱的就是,不公正、專制、想刪就刪,想永久禁止發言就禁
連版規也可以修改成"禁止組務申訴程序相關判決文章發文推文"?
這不就讓當初處罰錯誤,然後被申訴成功的版友真相,不見天日?
那就變成,版主永遠都是公正的、無私的、沒有任何處置不當?所以版主做的非常好的?
每位管版者,都一定會遇到反對的人,我遇過無數次,數不清
但是很詭異的是,在討論串底下罵翻我的,下面居然一堆力挺我的幫我發言
而如果一位版主所做行為就是失當,當反對聲浪一起,挺的人數一數數量
而我還是,覺得每個版主(任何版甚至其他論壇)都需要被尊重
尊重版主真的是種小小禮貌,真的不要動不動就找版主麻煩,
當尊重版主時,也乖乖的當個好版友,每次進版才會歡樂
最後再叮嚀一次
如果真的要走司法訴訟,請務必在沒有違反版規及站規前提下
真的不要浪費司法資源,我說真的!!!!
PS:我忘記補充一件事,那個。。。某某,您的百獸我在檢舉中心看見了
(對不起,因為我二月底原本就再也不上台中版,所以沒看見這篇文章)
(感謝有人檢舉讓我看見這篇指明我的文章)
您所提供的網頁新聞報導,那位知名的蘇先生,是在違反站規跟版規下,
而提告多人,這不起訴是正常的,而且是非常非常正常不起訴
我如果是檢察官,也會這樣判
所以您不要以為無故刪除我文章
以及您文章內容所寫的,卻跟您給我的訊息正本出入很大,您就認為您這種行為是正確的
而這裡我要感謝另一位,因為我請求他刪除不實部分
他居然回我"沒有規定不可以捏造自己寫的信件",真是英明
所以我所說的誹謗要件,我想也不用再對您及另一人多提起,因為無所謂
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