撿屍文化--為什麼我們該在這時候談女權 - 閒聊
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我同意你說的,性侵是不對的,性侵犯應該受到嚴厲的譴責
但我不同意你說的,關於""不應該檢討受害者""的觀點
「明知山有虎,偏向虎山行」
那具有冒險犯難精神的勇者被老虎咬傷了、咬死了
到底該不該檢討勇者高估自己能力,以為自己可以全身而退?
先說清楚,不論什麼情況之下,我認為性侵犯都是罪該萬死的!
甚至我很希望性侵犯只要被抓到一律閹掉,因為他們不懂得控制自己的慾望
我也對於之前很多新聞報導,說哪個性侵犯假釋沒多久立刻再犯
甚至殺害受害人云云
也是憤怒的覺得根本法律殺人!(誇飾)
如果不要假釋他們就不會有新的受害者!
(以上這段離題)
但對於受害者,我會去判斷他/她值不值得同情
(強調:不論是男是女,被強迫性交在我眼中都是同樣程度的受害者)
穿著不論如何暴露,被人擄走性侵
→這毫無疑問的,受害者無辜!
普通穿著,被人擄走性侵
→毫無疑問的,受害者無辜!
參加party,被下藥進而被帶走性侵
→也毫無疑問的,受害者無辜!
去夜店玩耍,被下藥然後被撿走性侵
→這也沒有爭議,受害者無辜!
因為妳/你【無法預期】會有人把你/妳擄走、或者對妳/你下藥!
去夜店或舞廳喝酒喝到爛醉不醒人事,被人撿走性侵
→這毫無疑問的,受害者本身是加害者的推手!
因為妳/你【完全可以預期】喝到爛醉是有危險的!
不曉得這樣子的解釋,是否能讓原原PO了解
譴責受害者的人,並不全都是什麼父權主義者之類的
ok?
在我的觀點,
如果完全不譴責這些去玩去喝酒搞到自己爛醉如泥後發生性侵慘案的受害者
只顧著安慰他/她們,告訴他/她們說
「錯的不是你/妳,是性侵你/妳的人!別哭了。」
那只會讓他們無法認清事實(自己是幫助犯罪)、永遠無法長大。
===
有板友提出,受害者已經被性侵了,最好是"長不大"
還有關於什麼叫做要為自己的行為負責?被性侵了還不夠嗎?
我直接補充一個例子,說明
===
例如曾經在BG引起討論串的求助文
「男生不要女友去夜店,女的硬要去還說有姊妹照顧,很堅持喔!姊妹還打電化盧男的
男生退一步放行但交代千萬不可以喝到爛醉,以免發生危險!女的也好好好
《後來女生仍喝醉不醒人事+被撿走性侵》
男的根本受不了打擊,還是硬陪著處理完報案啥的手續之後才提分手
結果?
結果女生那方的所有人都在叫說男的怎麼可以在這種狀況下丟下女生
"錯的是性侵的人!又不是我自願被性侵的!!"女生+女生親友團如是說」
這種狀況,不就是【受害人根本沒學到教訓】還自以為全部都是性侵犯的錯?!
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我同意你說的,性侵是不對的,性侵犯應該受到嚴厲的譴責
但我不同意你說的,關於""不應該檢討受害者""的觀點
「明知山有虎,偏向虎山行」
那具有冒險犯難精神的勇者被老虎咬傷了、咬死了
到底該不該檢討勇者高估自己能力,以為自己可以全身而退?
先說清楚,不論什麼情況之下,我認為性侵犯都是罪該萬死的!
甚至我很希望性侵犯只要被抓到一律閹掉,因為他們不懂得控制自己的慾望
我也對於之前很多新聞報導,說哪個性侵犯假釋沒多久立刻再犯
甚至殺害受害人云云
也是憤怒的覺得根本法律殺人!(誇飾)
如果不要假釋他們就不會有新的受害者!
(以上這段離題)
但對於受害者,我會去判斷他/她值不值得同情
(強調:不論是男是女,被強迫性交在我眼中都是同樣程度的受害者)
穿著不論如何暴露,被人擄走性侵
→這毫無疑問的,受害者無辜!
普通穿著,被人擄走性侵
→毫無疑問的,受害者無辜!
參加party,被下藥進而被帶走性侵
→也毫無疑問的,受害者無辜!
去夜店玩耍,被下藥然後被撿走性侵
→這也沒有爭議,受害者無辜!
因為妳/你【無法預期】會有人把你/妳擄走、或者對妳/你下藥!
去夜店或舞廳喝酒喝到爛醉不醒人事,被人撿走性侵
→這毫無疑問的,受害者本身是加害者的推手!
因為妳/你【完全可以預期】喝到爛醉是有危險的!
不曉得這樣子的解釋,是否能讓原原PO了解
譴責受害者的人,並不全都是什麼父權主義者之類的
ok?
在我的觀點,
如果完全不譴責這些去玩去喝酒搞到自己爛醉如泥後發生性侵慘案的受害者
只顧著安慰他/她們,告訴他/她們說
「錯的不是你/妳,是性侵你/妳的人!別哭了。」
那只會讓他們無法認清事實(自己是幫助犯罪)、永遠無法長大。
===
有板友提出,受害者已經被性侵了,最好是"長不大"
還有關於什麼叫做要為自己的行為負責?被性侵了還不夠嗎?
我直接補充一個例子,說明
===
例如曾經在BG引起討論串的求助文
「男生不要女友去夜店,女的硬要去還說有姊妹照顧,很堅持喔!姊妹還打電化盧男的
男生退一步放行但交代千萬不可以喝到爛醉,以免發生危險!女的也好好好
《後來女生仍喝醉不醒人事+被撿走性侵》
男的根本受不了打擊,還是硬陪著處理完報案啥的手續之後才提分手
結果?
結果女生那方的所有人都在叫說男的怎麼可以在這種狀況下丟下女生
"錯的是性侵的人!又不是我自願被性侵的!!"女生+女生親友團如是說」
這種狀況,不就是【受害人根本沒學到教訓】還自以為全部都是性侵犯的錯?!
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