我看蘇花高 - 花蓮

By Leila
at 2008-02-28T02:10
at 2008-02-28T02:10
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※ 引述《nick0605 (民進黨慘敗咎由自取)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《BRIANERIC2 (灰色軌跡)》之銘言:
: : 這個問題每次一戰就沒完沒了,我很早以前就說過
: : 最簡單的就是,把在花蓮工作的,20歲以上的人抓來公投
: : 沒在花蓮工作的不算喔!(所以我也不能投)
: : 投一次就知道結果,然後反對或贊成者都不用再多說什麼
: : 每一方都有自己的立場,實在沒有必要一直互相反駁。
: : 只是怕到時候投票結果出來,又會有人跳出來說是政府愚弄花蓮百姓....
你看看,又來戰了又來戰了。大家心平氣合討論不是很好嗎
為什麼又要有這種戰文出現?建議版主再有這種情況可以連我的一併砍掉了…
為什麼會要說公投,因為很多次的民調,都顯示了花蓮大多數人是支持的
可是呢,有很多人卻不相信民調。他們說:我認識的花蓮人都反對啊
既然大家都不相信,那我建議直接辦一次縣民公投,少數服從多數
就可以知道花蓮人的心聲。
並不是說投過了就要執行啊,只是投過了就可以給花蓮縣政府一個參考。
讓縣議會或縣政府知道花蓮要什麼。
中央要怎麼做是中央的事,中央的政策不是已經很明顯了嗎?
為什麼你老是死性不改,永遠要扣人帽子。
: 建議閣下不要每次到最後都放這招大決
: 你這樣的心態跟那位在花蓮的那位政客立委有什麼差別
: 動不動就搞激情 缺乏民主素養
: 再者 請你不要曲解公投的意涵 公投不是扮家家酒
: 雖然蘇花高的興建攸關花蓮民眾的權益
: 但畢竟還是屬於國家重大建設 花的錢都是全體納稅人的錢
: 需要全體國民參予 而不是單單只有花蓮縣民
: 公投要參予的對象不能只有花蓮縣民 這樣對全體納稅人無法交代
: 假設今天蘇花高由全體花蓮縣民出資興建 沒有動用到國家預算 那我沒話說
: 還有 假設你真的想要讓站上鄉民體會到花蓮縣民是一面倒的贊成興建
: 你應該提出更有力的證明
: 筆者建議你既然那麼想辦公投 麻煩閣下先去聯署 看能不能通過門檻
: 通過門檻再來談公投問題 否則你講再多也是空談 甚至有點不切實際
: 我也懶得繼續跟你反駁什麼
: 我就靜靜的看你怎麼去替你找有力的證據
: 讓你站得住自己的立場 跟別人大聲說 花蓮人有九成都支持蘇花高
: 否則你嘴巴只是說說沒實際去做 在別人眼中只會讓他們感覺你只靠一張嘴而已
: 而你所講的 我親戚說 我朋友說 等等之類的 就非常缺乏公信力
: 這年頭講口號誰不會 但實際作到的又有多少
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: ※ 引述《BRIANERIC2 (灰色軌跡)》之銘言:
: : 這個問題每次一戰就沒完沒了,我很早以前就說過
: : 最簡單的就是,把在花蓮工作的,20歲以上的人抓來公投
: : 沒在花蓮工作的不算喔!(所以我也不能投)
: : 投一次就知道結果,然後反對或贊成者都不用再多說什麼
: : 每一方都有自己的立場,實在沒有必要一直互相反駁。
: : 只是怕到時候投票結果出來,又會有人跳出來說是政府愚弄花蓮百姓....
你看看,又來戰了又來戰了。大家心平氣合討論不是很好嗎
為什麼又要有這種戰文出現?建議版主再有這種情況可以連我的一併砍掉了…
為什麼會要說公投,因為很多次的民調,都顯示了花蓮大多數人是支持的
可是呢,有很多人卻不相信民調。他們說:我認識的花蓮人都反對啊
既然大家都不相信,那我建議直接辦一次縣民公投,少數服從多數
就可以知道花蓮人的心聲。
並不是說投過了就要執行啊,只是投過了就可以給花蓮縣政府一個參考。
讓縣議會或縣政府知道花蓮要什麼。
中央要怎麼做是中央的事,中央的政策不是已經很明顯了嗎?
為什麼你老是死性不改,永遠要扣人帽子。
: 建議閣下不要每次到最後都放這招大決
: 你這樣的心態跟那位在花蓮的那位政客立委有什麼差別
: 動不動就搞激情 缺乏民主素養
: 再者 請你不要曲解公投的意涵 公投不是扮家家酒
: 雖然蘇花高的興建攸關花蓮民眾的權益
: 但畢竟還是屬於國家重大建設 花的錢都是全體納稅人的錢
: 需要全體國民參予 而不是單單只有花蓮縣民
: 公投要參予的對象不能只有花蓮縣民 這樣對全體納稅人無法交代
: 假設今天蘇花高由全體花蓮縣民出資興建 沒有動用到國家預算 那我沒話說
: 還有 假設你真的想要讓站上鄉民體會到花蓮縣民是一面倒的贊成興建
: 你應該提出更有力的證明
: 筆者建議你既然那麼想辦公投 麻煩閣下先去聯署 看能不能通過門檻
: 通過門檻再來談公投問題 否則你講再多也是空談 甚至有點不切實際
: 我也懶得繼續跟你反駁什麼
: 我就靜靜的看你怎麼去替你找有力的證據
: 讓你站得住自己的立場 跟別人大聲說 花蓮人有九成都支持蘇花高
: 否則你嘴巴只是說說沒實際去做 在別人眼中只會讓他們感覺你只靠一張嘴而已
: 而你所講的 我親戚說 我朋友說 等等之類的 就非常缺乏公信力
: 這年頭講口號誰不會 但實際作到的又有多少
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