鹽埕城中城失火,沒事不要靠近 - 高雄
By Quintina
at 2021-10-14T19:01
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危機就是轉機!
大家多花點時間討論怎麼讓城市可以變得更好,比討論投資房地產應該更有價值
大家都知道都更很重要,但市場機制讓沒有人願意介入無利可圖的都更案
都更的成本來自於整合的困難度,產權分散,人力、時間,個案的五花八門問題
以近年來最成功的公辦都更案例 台北市斯文里三期與城中城相比為例
城中城
139個地主、承租租客、侵占戶,有建物產權者,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZDGbygL1jU
(看到自救會裡的總幹事與黃小姐,很讓人心酸。他們代表了在城中城裡,想要脫離這個
困境的聲音,希望他們在這次火災中還安好)
斯文里
土地所有權人:220人
斯文里三期260戶住戶中有著近130戶的列冊弱勢戶
https://www-ws.gov.taipei/001/Upload/459/attachment/7415054/7102615363531.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlNyi7hZaNM
裡面有租客的想法
現任高雄市副市長林欽榮施力甚深(這樣應該算高雄點吧)
最重要的差別,在於市政府直接擔任實施者(不是公辦都更,再後委託建商)
讓政府的力量,直接深入整合的過程,這個過程絕對吃力不討好,但也只有政府才有這樣
的權利,也更能提供政府橫向協調的能力。
斯文里都更案透過駐點辦公室,駐紮於當地、深入地區,調查需求、傾聽心聲、搜集意見
;為使居民充分了解計畫內容,工作站駐地期間,更分期、分區、分樓層召開了近百餘場
次之公辦都市更新說明會
在整合都更的過程中,銜接政府既有的社福力量,提供包括
1.拆遷安置計畫:拆遷安置(租金補貼)
2.公宅資源先行留控一定戶數供作媒合
3.市府包租代管系統,協助找到可以中繼安置或長期安住的家
4.弱勢戶搬家過程免費搬家車服務協助搬遷
5.弱勢戶關懷陪伴計畫,避免喪失協助資源
最讓人驚訝的是 時間其實沒有想像中的這麼久
2016年2月2日便成立公辦都更駐地專案工作站
2017年3月招標作業
2021年2月23日上梁
預計
2022年4月入住
希望林欽榮副市長可以將成功經驗代來高雄,不要只著重在新市鎮的開發,市地重劃
(看看楠梓房價在台積電正式上工前5年會怎麼狂飆)
另外高雄市的低用電空屋數量與餘屋數量比率,也是台灣數一數二的,應該要更積極推動
包租代管,才能讓空房屋回到市場供需裡,讓人有正常居住(買或租)的生活權利
※ 引述《deltaz (我還懂不懂飛翔)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述 《qooisgood (不告訴你)》 之銘言:
: : 推 iangjen : 做得不錯的四萬社宅哈哈哈,就問你這種規格要給誰住 10/14 16:50
: : → iangjen : 嘛,能負擔這種價格的人需要社宅? 10/14 16:50
: 社宅政策已經變革這麼多,怎麼還有人還停留在古代的觀念
: 為啥現在的社宅會有部分比較貴的戶別出租,就是為了不要全部塞滿底層的人,導致社宅變
: 成嫌惡設施,造成鄰近居民暴動反對(以前的玩法,搞到居民衝市政府門口自殺自焚都不誇
: 張)
: 另外一部分是財源的來源,社會福利單位要短時間挹注大量資源不難,但長期呢?根本不可
: 能,所以要考慮財務的自償性,讓一部分經濟能力好的多的族群進來,一方面解決住的問題
: 培養這些人可以專心工作往上移動,提高產能,一方面就是讓這些人多出點租金來彌補財源
: ,市政府的財務負擔才不會太大
: 這樣總的社宅量能才可能放大,弱勢補助雖然每一棟只佔一部分,但如果沒有鄰近居民抗議
: 與財務問題,就可以多蓋幾棟,總數還是贏過蓋一棟全部都給超級弱勢住,但是無法推動後
: 續社宅的老方案
: 簡單說,如果老方案有效,那現在無法提供足量低價社宅給超級弱勢的居住的縣市,難道都
: 是蓄意不作為,刻意用制度殺人嗎
: --
: Sent from my 小小研究員
: ○ PiTT // PHJCI
:
: --
大家多花點時間討論怎麼讓城市可以變得更好,比討論投資房地產應該更有價值
大家都知道都更很重要,但市場機制讓沒有人願意介入無利可圖的都更案
都更的成本來自於整合的困難度,產權分散,人力、時間,個案的五花八門問題
以近年來最成功的公辦都更案例 台北市斯文里三期與城中城相比為例
城中城
139個地主、承租租客、侵占戶,有建物產權者,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZDGbygL1jU
困境的聲音,希望他們在這次火災中還安好)
斯文里
土地所有權人:220人
斯文里三期260戶住戶中有著近130戶的列冊弱勢戶
https://www-ws.gov.taipei/001/Upload/459/attachment/7415054/7102615363531.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlNyi7hZaNM
現任高雄市副市長林欽榮施力甚深(這樣應該算高雄點吧)
最重要的差別,在於市政府直接擔任實施者(不是公辦都更,再後委託建商)
讓政府的力量,直接深入整合的過程,這個過程絕對吃力不討好,但也只有政府才有這樣
的權利,也更能提供政府橫向協調的能力。
斯文里都更案透過駐點辦公室,駐紮於當地、深入地區,調查需求、傾聽心聲、搜集意見
;為使居民充分了解計畫內容,工作站駐地期間,更分期、分區、分樓層召開了近百餘場
次之公辦都市更新說明會
在整合都更的過程中,銜接政府既有的社福力量,提供包括
1.拆遷安置計畫:拆遷安置(租金補貼)
2.公宅資源先行留控一定戶數供作媒合
3.市府包租代管系統,協助找到可以中繼安置或長期安住的家
4.弱勢戶搬家過程免費搬家車服務協助搬遷
5.弱勢戶關懷陪伴計畫,避免喪失協助資源
最讓人驚訝的是 時間其實沒有想像中的這麼久
2016年2月2日便成立公辦都更駐地專案工作站
2017年3月招標作業
2021年2月23日上梁
預計
2022年4月入住
希望林欽榮副市長可以將成功經驗代來高雄,不要只著重在新市鎮的開發,市地重劃
(看看楠梓房價在台積電正式上工前5年會怎麼狂飆)
另外高雄市的低用電空屋數量與餘屋數量比率,也是台灣數一數二的,應該要更積極推動
包租代管,才能讓空房屋回到市場供需裡,讓人有正常居住(買或租)的生活權利
※ 引述《deltaz (我還懂不懂飛翔)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述 《qooisgood (不告訴你)》 之銘言:
: : 推 iangjen : 做得不錯的四萬社宅哈哈哈,就問你這種規格要給誰住 10/14 16:50
: : → iangjen : 嘛,能負擔這種價格的人需要社宅? 10/14 16:50
: 社宅政策已經變革這麼多,怎麼還有人還停留在古代的觀念
: 為啥現在的社宅會有部分比較貴的戶別出租,就是為了不要全部塞滿底層的人,導致社宅變
: 成嫌惡設施,造成鄰近居民暴動反對(以前的玩法,搞到居民衝市政府門口自殺自焚都不誇
: 張)
: 另外一部分是財源的來源,社會福利單位要短時間挹注大量資源不難,但長期呢?根本不可
: 能,所以要考慮財務的自償性,讓一部分經濟能力好的多的族群進來,一方面解決住的問題
: 培養這些人可以專心工作往上移動,提高產能,一方面就是讓這些人多出點租金來彌補財源
: ,市政府的財務負擔才不會太大
: 這樣總的社宅量能才可能放大,弱勢補助雖然每一棟只佔一部分,但如果沒有鄰近居民抗議
: 與財務問題,就可以多蓋幾棟,總數還是贏過蓋一棟全部都給超級弱勢住,但是無法推動後
: 續社宅的老方案
: 簡單說,如果老方案有效,那現在無法提供足量低價社宅給超級弱勢的居住的縣市,難道都
: 是蓄意不作為,刻意用制度殺人嗎
: --
: Sent from my 小小研究員
: ○ PiTT // PHJCI
:
: --
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