高雄人想把中山趕出西子灣? - 高雄
By Rachel
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就這命題,到底中山大學要不要遷出西子灣?
先討論一下中山跟高雄大學合併之後的國立中山大學(名稱暫訂)的定位
中山大學起碼是中字輩起跳,本身是研究型大學,坐落在高雄市美麗的西子灣,
文學、管理、電資、海洋學院等,在國內評價都還不錯,
誠如前述討論串所述,大學與城市發展息息相關,我相信高雄市民無人想要趕走中山,
不過,中山大學是有幾個致命的缺點,也是這些缺點才導致為何想要併校?
缺點1:學生人數太少,僅9,000人
不要去比台清交成較完整的研究型大學,比中字輩的研究型大學,光是中央及中正大學的
學生人數(12,000人)就比中山大學多,這也意味著「學術排名」及「教育經費」資源搶奪
戰中,立足點的不平等。你是教育部,你會多補助錢給中山還是中央?
缺點2:科系不夠完整
沒有法律系、會計系、化工系、醫學系等,稱不上完整的研究型大學,這樣又能留下多少
高雄在地的子弟及吸引外地學子來本市就讀,而人才的培育養成缺乏這些科系,你如果是
企業老闆,你會希望把公司遷到本市嗎?
會。如果我是22k的公司老闆,工資越便宜我成本越低,漸漸地...開始與台北、新北、桃
園、新竹地區薪水有所差異,甚至同樣一份工作,越往北薪水越高。
缺點3:教育經費不足
中山大學一年經費是30億,比起台大160億少許多,而對岸的北京清華大學一年經費是
1,000億,順道一提,北京清華大學一年校創企業「營收」161億人民幣,背後有著紫光集
團等,你說大學教育強調完人養成,講錢太俗氣。
是。但是學校有錢,可以吸引來自世界各地的良師,甚至企業家;但在台灣,大學教育這
樣搞會被罵翻,圖利大學教授教職員等,裡面一定有官商勾結、大學舞弊等,所以各位就
只好乖乖繳稅給國家,然後透過教育部補助大專院校給國立中山大學,但在爭取經費的時
候又輸給其他的大學,然後學子跟人才繼續北漂....
缺點4:中山校地不夠
如同討論串網友所言,西子灣腹地太小、地質不良,光是9,000人及一群柴山猴子就塞滿
以上,如果合併高雄大學(區域型大學),雖然說無法立刻跟台清交成競爭,可起碼可以跟
中央中正一戰(誤),說真的,我不曉得為啥周邊的大家反彈那麼大?其實我是覺得不錯
至於中山大學成立學士後醫科跟合併高醫大這件事...恩 等確定再說吧~
抱歉先解說合併的始末,再回歸原本的命題。
如果合併之後,校方決議搬離西子灣,那這塊地也是國防部的,為何高雄市政府可拿去觀
光?再來,回歸到缺點3,對岸的做法,其實中山大學也是可以自己經營賺錢,不過可惜的
是,礙於教育政策的法規,中山大學無法像對岸一樣,但也是提個想法出來討論討論唄~
最後,比較排名較中山前面的大學(中山的假想敵XD)
陽明交通大學校區:新竹、台北火車站對面、陽明學區、台南
台灣大學校區:台北公館、竹北、南投實驗農場
以上例子多塊校地,也不全然會把重心往那邊壓,畢竟學校是得考慮整體成本效益分析,
相信中山大學在考量教授居住地、通勤時間、校區單位面積、教育品質等因素,
自然會做出對自己學校有利的方向,為何高雄市民要替國立中山大學獻策呢?XDDDD
當然如果市民是
西子灣的商家肯定是不希望他離開的。
而藍田的建商或許正興致高昂的想要獵地..
但我想問的是,
一所好的大學,比如說台灣大學,你都願意離鄉背井北漂築夢,甚至出國圓夢...
高雄市就這麼大,中山大學校區在哪裡,我都覺得還好。
其實我們根本就不需要替學子煩惱,
身為市民的大家都希望國立中山大學可以成為國內一流大學(基本上是),
起碼國立中山大學是在高雄市,這點無庸置疑,
高雄不若台北市,台大在哪裡,房價高的地區在哪裡,還是回歸到學子角度上
基本上大學是探索自我、創造回憶的好所在,
學生時代是唯一犯錯還可以被原諒的地方
多利用這段時光,前串討論文的社區回饋也好,努力讀書加入台GG成為輪班達人也罷,
甚至全數放空就單純熱愛這座城市漂泊都來得及,多少留下些青春回憶。
然後,多去觀察這個世界脈動,至於國立中山大學到底會不會遷出西子灣?
遷出與不遷出,都會有不同的境遇,重點在於您在國立中山大學到底學會了甚麼???
(以上僅為個人潛見 歡迎交流)
--
先討論一下中山跟高雄大學合併之後的國立中山大學(名稱暫訂)的定位
中山大學起碼是中字輩起跳,本身是研究型大學,坐落在高雄市美麗的西子灣,
文學、管理、電資、海洋學院等,在國內評價都還不錯,
誠如前述討論串所述,大學與城市發展息息相關,我相信高雄市民無人想要趕走中山,
不過,中山大學是有幾個致命的缺點,也是這些缺點才導致為何想要併校?
缺點1:學生人數太少,僅9,000人
不要去比台清交成較完整的研究型大學,比中字輩的研究型大學,光是中央及中正大學的
學生人數(12,000人)就比中山大學多,這也意味著「學術排名」及「教育經費」資源搶奪
戰中,立足點的不平等。你是教育部,你會多補助錢給中山還是中央?
缺點2:科系不夠完整
沒有法律系、會計系、化工系、醫學系等,稱不上完整的研究型大學,這樣又能留下多少
高雄在地的子弟及吸引外地學子來本市就讀,而人才的培育養成缺乏這些科系,你如果是
企業老闆,你會希望把公司遷到本市嗎?
會。如果我是22k的公司老闆,工資越便宜我成本越低,漸漸地...開始與台北、新北、桃
園、新竹地區薪水有所差異,甚至同樣一份工作,越往北薪水越高。
缺點3:教育經費不足
中山大學一年經費是30億,比起台大160億少許多,而對岸的北京清華大學一年經費是
1,000億,順道一提,北京清華大學一年校創企業「營收」161億人民幣,背後有著紫光集
團等,你說大學教育強調完人養成,講錢太俗氣。
是。但是學校有錢,可以吸引來自世界各地的良師,甚至企業家;但在台灣,大學教育這
樣搞會被罵翻,圖利大學教授教職員等,裡面一定有官商勾結、大學舞弊等,所以各位就
只好乖乖繳稅給國家,然後透過教育部補助大專院校給國立中山大學,但在爭取經費的時
候又輸給其他的大學,然後學子跟人才繼續北漂....
缺點4:中山校地不夠
如同討論串網友所言,西子灣腹地太小、地質不良,光是9,000人及一群柴山猴子就塞滿
以上,如果合併高雄大學(區域型大學),雖然說無法立刻跟台清交成競爭,可起碼可以跟
中央中正一戰(誤),說真的,我不曉得為啥周邊的大家反彈那麼大?其實我是覺得不錯
至於中山大學成立學士後醫科跟合併高醫大這件事...恩 等確定再說吧~
抱歉先解說合併的始末,再回歸原本的命題。
如果合併之後,校方決議搬離西子灣,那這塊地也是國防部的,為何高雄市政府可拿去觀
光?再來,回歸到缺點3,對岸的做法,其實中山大學也是可以自己經營賺錢,不過可惜的
是,礙於教育政策的法規,中山大學無法像對岸一樣,但也是提個想法出來討論討論唄~
最後,比較排名較中山前面的大學(中山的假想敵XD)
陽明交通大學校區:新竹、台北火車站對面、陽明學區、台南
台灣大學校區:台北公館、竹北、南投實驗農場
以上例子多塊校地,也不全然會把重心往那邊壓,畢竟學校是得考慮整體成本效益分析,
相信中山大學在考量教授居住地、通勤時間、校區單位面積、教育品質等因素,
自然會做出對自己學校有利的方向,為何高雄市民要替國立中山大學獻策呢?XDDDD
當然如果市民是
西子灣的商家肯定是不希望他離開的。
而藍田的建商或許正興致高昂的想要獵地..
但我想問的是,
一所好的大學,比如說台灣大學,你都願意離鄉背井北漂築夢,甚至出國圓夢...
高雄市就這麼大,中山大學校區在哪裡,我都覺得還好。
其實我們根本就不需要替學子煩惱,
身為市民的大家都希望國立中山大學可以成為國內一流大學(基本上是),
起碼國立中山大學是在高雄市,這點無庸置疑,
高雄不若台北市,台大在哪裡,房價高的地區在哪裡,還是回歸到學子角度上
基本上大學是探索自我、創造回憶的好所在,
學生時代是唯一犯錯還可以被原諒的地方
多利用這段時光,前串討論文的社區回饋也好,努力讀書加入台GG成為輪班達人也罷,
甚至全數放空就單純熱愛這座城市漂泊都來得及,多少留下些青春回憶。
然後,多去觀察這個世界脈動,至於國立中山大學到底會不會遷出西子灣?
遷出與不遷出,都會有不同的境遇,重點在於您在國立中山大學到底學會了甚麼???
(以上僅為個人潛見 歡迎交流)
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