關於疫情臨時條款–試行禁發新聞討論 - 高雄
By Kyle
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各位板友大家好:
有板友寄信給我,希望我也關注一下這件事情,所以我又來發文啦~~
基本上大家的看法我都看過了~我也可以理解為什麼板主要這樣做~
只是如果問我的態度,我個人是持反對這麼草率的禁止,
以下就我個人經驗與觀察來作一點說明。
1.新聞是否是引起許多爭吵的爭議點?
是~不過這點好像是我引起來的,如果大家記得本板應該是有政治文條款,
也就是說依據政治文條款,政治文內容必須要有500字的限制,所以要用
政治文來帶風向或是刻意的炒作話題變得相對困難,所以就變成轉戰以發新聞
作為帶風向或是刻意的炒作話題的手法~
2.記然新聞為另外一類的炒作方式那麼為什麼不禁止?
其實我過去也有觀察過這一個現象,所以政治文有一條是政治新聞回文~
但凡政治新聞回文均屬政治文,也就是說不看內容,只看原文是否是政治新聞。
這點在過去也解決過不少的問題,那麼為什麼現在沒用?我想這點應該是現在
板主應該好好的想一下。
3.禁止新聞類別改用聊天就可以了嗎?
其實還是不行。簡單的這樣說,如果有一則新聞是
標題:2月30號會下大雨
內文:愚人節騙你的啦
如果說我覺得很有趣想分享這則新聞,但是現在被禁止阿?那怎麼辦?
依據板主說的用閒聊文~發文內容:
第一版:各位板友可以去google 2月30號會下大雨,......云云。
一樣可以發文。
第二版:各位板友我看到一則資訊:愚人節騙你的啦。不知道各位的看法是什麼?
還是發文了~
剩下的我還是不要亂教的好XDDD
創意是無限的,如果要實質內容的審查我只能說終究會失敗。因為我看到失敗的
案例全部都是實質內容審查的案例。我想既然是工程師背景總知道要找特徵點,
以特徵點作為規定要件才是重點。
4.但凡規定必然有模糊地帶,也就是說模糊地帶越小,你的規定就是越完整~
而這些模糊地帶就是必須人為審查的部分。
5.基本上地方板確實是功能取向,但是在功能取向之餘又是一種弱化的聊天板,
所以再各項發文上的限制終究是相對弱化的~所以你可以在地方板討論地方的
吃到飽,也可以在地方板送東西,也可以在地方板發表地方交通不好的政治文
......。所以看看地方新聞和板友分享就不是地方板的功能嗎?
至於現任板主認為:經過評估後,現在的素質完全不適合開放新聞。?
我希望這只是一時的筆誤啦~不然這樣應該涉及引戰行為,怎樣的素質才可以開放?
6.我可以理解有人違規想要解決很多人一直違規的問題,因為我也遇過~我可以給的
建議是關門就要開窗,你關了這門沒開窗,那就是讓這股想要宣洩的氣沒地方去
而已最終慘的還是板。(我關了閒聊政治文的門,開了對新聞評論的窗)
7.站在旁人的位置觀看確實比較輕鬆一點,這是事實,但責任是自己攬上來的,
我可以理解很多人在一旁講風涼話的滋味(我自己現在就算是說風涼話),所以
我個人還是願意多給一點鼓勵給現任板主。只是我鼓勵的是想方法改變現狀,
而不是全面的禁止。所以建議還是再找新方法吧。
8.最後確實管板很累,但是過去我一個人可以的,我相信兩個人還可以多兼任其它板
板主的現任板主,應該更有餘力才是。管板的總時間不一定要長,但是頻率要高。
多作一點資料庫蒐集時事資料,管理板會更輕鬆一點。能亂板一定有相對的目地。
抓到目地自然解決的速度會快很多。還有讓檢舉的板友多發言他們給的資料其實
很受用。
以上是我給的一點小建議和看法,有興趣討論的板友也可以在下面討論,我有時間
一定會回您。
simonjen
--
有板友寄信給我,希望我也關注一下這件事情,所以我又來發文啦~~
基本上大家的看法我都看過了~我也可以理解為什麼板主要這樣做~
只是如果問我的態度,我個人是持反對這麼草率的禁止,
以下就我個人經驗與觀察來作一點說明。
1.新聞是否是引起許多爭吵的爭議點?
是~不過這點好像是我引起來的,如果大家記得本板應該是有政治文條款,
也就是說依據政治文條款,政治文內容必須要有500字的限制,所以要用
政治文來帶風向或是刻意的炒作話題變得相對困難,所以就變成轉戰以發新聞
作為帶風向或是刻意的炒作話題的手法~
2.記然新聞為另外一類的炒作方式那麼為什麼不禁止?
其實我過去也有觀察過這一個現象,所以政治文有一條是政治新聞回文~
但凡政治新聞回文均屬政治文,也就是說不看內容,只看原文是否是政治新聞。
這點在過去也解決過不少的問題,那麼為什麼現在沒用?我想這點應該是現在
板主應該好好的想一下。
3.禁止新聞類別改用聊天就可以了嗎?
其實還是不行。簡單的這樣說,如果有一則新聞是
標題:2月30號會下大雨
內文:愚人節騙你的啦
如果說我覺得很有趣想分享這則新聞,但是現在被禁止阿?那怎麼辦?
依據板主說的用閒聊文~發文內容:
第一版:各位板友可以去google 2月30號會下大雨,......云云。
一樣可以發文。
第二版:各位板友我看到一則資訊:愚人節騙你的啦。不知道各位的看法是什麼?
還是發文了~
剩下的我還是不要亂教的好XDDD
創意是無限的,如果要實質內容的審查我只能說終究會失敗。因為我看到失敗的
案例全部都是實質內容審查的案例。我想既然是工程師背景總知道要找特徵點,
以特徵點作為規定要件才是重點。
4.但凡規定必然有模糊地帶,也就是說模糊地帶越小,你的規定就是越完整~
而這些模糊地帶就是必須人為審查的部分。
5.基本上地方板確實是功能取向,但是在功能取向之餘又是一種弱化的聊天板,
所以再各項發文上的限制終究是相對弱化的~所以你可以在地方板討論地方的
吃到飽,也可以在地方板送東西,也可以在地方板發表地方交通不好的政治文
......。所以看看地方新聞和板友分享就不是地方板的功能嗎?
至於現任板主認為:經過評估後,現在的素質完全不適合開放新聞。?
我希望這只是一時的筆誤啦~不然這樣應該涉及引戰行為,怎樣的素質才可以開放?
6.我可以理解有人違規想要解決很多人一直違規的問題,因為我也遇過~我可以給的
建議是關門就要開窗,你關了這門沒開窗,那就是讓這股想要宣洩的氣沒地方去
而已最終慘的還是板。(我關了閒聊政治文的門,開了對新聞評論的窗)
7.站在旁人的位置觀看確實比較輕鬆一點,這是事實,但責任是自己攬上來的,
我可以理解很多人在一旁講風涼話的滋味(我自己現在就算是說風涼話),所以
我個人還是願意多給一點鼓勵給現任板主。只是我鼓勵的是想方法改變現狀,
而不是全面的禁止。所以建議還是再找新方法吧。
8.最後確實管板很累,但是過去我一個人可以的,我相信兩個人還可以多兼任其它板
板主的現任板主,應該更有餘力才是。管板的總時間不一定要長,但是頻率要高。
多作一點資料庫蒐集時事資料,管理板會更輕鬆一點。能亂板一定有相對的目地。
抓到目地自然解決的速度會快很多。還有讓檢舉的板友多發言他們給的資料其實
很受用。
以上是我給的一點小建議和看法,有興趣討論的板友也可以在下面討論,我有時間
一定會回您。
simonjen
--
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