贈送文還要被罵詐騙,黑名qq520 - 彰化
By Mary
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※ 引述《qq520 (qq520是那個一三五會在家)》之銘言:
我想再補充一些自己的想法 各位前輩如果有覺得不對的地方再請給予批評
就事論事,魔鬼藏在細節裡:
第一點 回信給Roybaboon內的氣話 說要把東西資源回收 真的是我的錯
不該因生氣而失去理智 說這種浪費贈物者愛心的話 這個錯我難辭其咎
並也想在此跟Roybaboon認認真真的道歉 我錯了對不起
第二點 喇叭未索取到這件事, 如果一開始就要用偏見檢視
(你就是貪圖價格昂貴的東西 如果是鍋碗瓢盆你一定不會生氣/你就是想拿來賣)
那我後面解釋再多也無濟於事
但我想表達的是如同版大所說贈送跟交易是類似的事
只是交易是金錢跟物品的交換
贈送是物品能被再利用而開心與獲得物品減少花費而開心的交換 不是嗎?
如果今天這些東西需要花錢買,但實際拿到卻發現少了一樣東西
大家會覺得賣家是對的嗎?
可能有人會說Roybaboon並未答應說要給我幾樣物品
但站內信內容來回信件放在一起看
我:"請問可以跟您索取碗盤,喇叭嗎?" (我把數字變成中文比較好閱讀)
對方:"可以, 請明天中午..."
難道這不算是口頭上的一種承諾嗎? 我問可以嗎? 對方說可以...
我還要去推測對方可能只想送我前幾樣
後面喇叭太貴了 他會覺得我太貪心之類的嗎?
今天發生這樣的事 之後我在網路上與人交易或索取好了
難道不會導致我對其他人的信任更少了嗎?
而且還是在我覺得整個網路世界比較良善的ptt
畢竟我之前遇過的鄉民都很熱情也很nice
我回信給對方內容一直圍繞在"答應""約定"的問題 並非質問對方為何不送我
然後信件後我只是提醒Roy大以後可以先跟受贈人說清清楚
避免有人跟我一樣覺得有被騙的感覺 謝謝
以上我的思考歷程
首先感謝hikki52跟thoughtful大大的推文
沒錯我的不理性回信的確太不成熟了 這部分我會再檢討 還是要心平氣和處理
Roybaboon大 不是不回信給您 是靜下心來思考再回您
中間時間我也有再想回信的內容是否不妥 故沒立即回信
原文恕刪 想不到這麼快就被抓出來公審了@@" 大約講述經過一下
事情經過:
1. Roybaboon po贈送文 共15樣東西
我站內信給他:
"您好 請問可以跟您索取1,2,3,4,5,6樣東西嗎?" 如果可以再請告知方便的時間
2. 對方回信
可以, 明天12點之後到.....
3. 請問這樣是否可以理解為他回答我可以索取1~6樣東西?
4. 領到物品後 我是先回信給Roybaboon大問說6樣東西為何少了喇叭
這樣為何回信內容卻說"可以"呢?
(這才是今天第一封回信 並非原文所說第一封信馬上就生氣了)
收到Roybaboon回信說明
"發完了不會另外通知" 及"您不是前兩位來信索取 自然照順序給"
當下覺得 所以對方第一時間已確定喇叭會贈與他人 為何給我的回信隻字不提呢?
5. 後來我才寄出後面幾封不理性的信件
6. Roybaboon內文規則:
a. 如果有來信太多我會分配
-->可以理解, 但分配內容多少跟索取人說一聲吧?
b. 如果發完了不會回信說
--> 這是給後面索取不到的人說明的吧?
因為你有回信給我阿....@@" 表示沒發完?還是有發完?
5. 照Roybaboon大大說的 他再回信給我前 已經將物品送給其他版友
實在無法理解為何不跟我說一聲呢?
回信給Roybaboon內容中的網路詐騙都丟資源回收桶或是有點太意氣用事 我道歉
東西並未丟棄 只是當下情緒化字眼 後續會再轉贈他人 這部分我真的不夠成熟
可以向Roybaboon道歉
但我不知道我這樣的邏輯是否哪邊有問題呢?
其實我不是糾結那個喇叭沒拿到
而是雙方約定好的事情有差錯, 我自己有種被騙的感覺...不知道這樣表達是否適合
(但如同版友所說 這可能是雙方理解上的差異,
Roy大覺得他已經說會自行分配了 不用特別向我說明
而我覺得他的"可以"就是答應我了
或許以後我能再回一封信確認取的物品有哪些會更好)
或許贈與人很有愛心
但他的內文規則我覺得容易讓人誤解
希望贈與被贈都能互相尊重 謝謝大家指教~
補充說明一些事項:
1. Roy大內文有說"一人可以領取多樣"<--我就自己生活上會用到的跟他索取
沒想到被說拿5樣東西已經很值錢了吧 為何還要拿喇叭?
自用的東西是不需考慮價格的 實不實用才是重點
除非我要轉賣才會去考慮到每個物品的價格吧?
2. 我不想全取 因為不是每樣東西自己都用的到
最後想下個總結:
1. 我不是因為沒拿到藍芽喇叭生氣,
而是覺得別人答應了自己卻沒做到 感覺被騙而不開心(過程入上所述)
2. 事後回信是我的過失,不理性的回應及說要丟掉物品 是很不成熟的(但實際上我沒丟)
可以在這邊再跟Roybaboon道歉
--
我想再補充一些自己的想法 各位前輩如果有覺得不對的地方再請給予批評
就事論事,魔鬼藏在細節裡:
第一點 回信給Roybaboon內的氣話 說要把東西資源回收 真的是我的錯
不該因生氣而失去理智 說這種浪費贈物者愛心的話 這個錯我難辭其咎
並也想在此跟Roybaboon認認真真的道歉 我錯了對不起
第二點 喇叭未索取到這件事, 如果一開始就要用偏見檢視
(你就是貪圖價格昂貴的東西 如果是鍋碗瓢盆你一定不會生氣/你就是想拿來賣)
那我後面解釋再多也無濟於事
但我想表達的是如同版大所說贈送跟交易是類似的事
只是交易是金錢跟物品的交換
贈送是物品能被再利用而開心與獲得物品減少花費而開心的交換 不是嗎?
如果今天這些東西需要花錢買,但實際拿到卻發現少了一樣東西
大家會覺得賣家是對的嗎?
可能有人會說Roybaboon並未答應說要給我幾樣物品
但站內信內容來回信件放在一起看
我:"請問可以跟您索取碗盤,喇叭嗎?" (我把數字變成中文比較好閱讀)
對方:"可以, 請明天中午..."
難道這不算是口頭上的一種承諾嗎? 我問可以嗎? 對方說可以...
我還要去推測對方可能只想送我前幾樣
後面喇叭太貴了 他會覺得我太貪心之類的嗎?
今天發生這樣的事 之後我在網路上與人交易或索取好了
難道不會導致我對其他人的信任更少了嗎?
而且還是在我覺得整個網路世界比較良善的ptt
畢竟我之前遇過的鄉民都很熱情也很nice
我回信給對方內容一直圍繞在"答應""約定"的問題 並非質問對方為何不送我
然後信件後我只是提醒Roy大以後可以先跟受贈人說清清楚
避免有人跟我一樣覺得有被騙的感覺 謝謝
以上我的思考歷程
首先感謝hikki52跟thoughtful大大的推文
沒錯我的不理性回信的確太不成熟了 這部分我會再檢討 還是要心平氣和處理
Roybaboon大 不是不回信給您 是靜下心來思考再回您
中間時間我也有再想回信的內容是否不妥 故沒立即回信
原文恕刪 想不到這麼快就被抓出來公審了@@" 大約講述經過一下
事情經過:
1. Roybaboon po贈送文 共15樣東西
我站內信給他:
"您好 請問可以跟您索取1,2,3,4,5,6樣東西嗎?" 如果可以再請告知方便的時間
2. 對方回信
可以, 明天12點之後到.....
3. 請問這樣是否可以理解為他回答我可以索取1~6樣東西?
4. 領到物品後 我是先回信給Roybaboon大問說6樣東西為何少了喇叭
這樣為何回信內容卻說"可以"呢?
(這才是今天第一封回信 並非原文所說第一封信馬上就生氣了)
收到Roybaboon回信說明
"發完了不會另外通知" 及"您不是前兩位來信索取 自然照順序給"
當下覺得 所以對方第一時間已確定喇叭會贈與他人 為何給我的回信隻字不提呢?
5. 後來我才寄出後面幾封不理性的信件
6. Roybaboon內文規則:
a. 如果有來信太多我會分配
-->可以理解, 但分配內容多少跟索取人說一聲吧?
b. 如果發完了不會回信說
--> 這是給後面索取不到的人說明的吧?
因為你有回信給我阿....@@" 表示沒發完?還是有發完?
5. 照Roybaboon大大說的 他再回信給我前 已經將物品送給其他版友
實在無法理解為何不跟我說一聲呢?
回信給Roybaboon內容中的網路詐騙都丟資源回收桶或是有點太意氣用事 我道歉
東西並未丟棄 只是當下情緒化字眼 後續會再轉贈他人 這部分我真的不夠成熟
可以向Roybaboon道歉
但我不知道我這樣的邏輯是否哪邊有問題呢?
其實我不是糾結那個喇叭沒拿到
而是雙方約定好的事情有差錯, 我自己有種被騙的感覺...不知道這樣表達是否適合
(但如同版友所說 這可能是雙方理解上的差異,
Roy大覺得他已經說會自行分配了 不用特別向我說明
而我覺得他的"可以"就是答應我了
或許以後我能再回一封信確認取的物品有哪些會更好)
或許贈與人很有愛心
但他的內文規則我覺得容易讓人誤解
希望贈與被贈都能互相尊重 謝謝大家指教~
補充說明一些事項:
1. Roy大內文有說"一人可以領取多樣"<--我就自己生活上會用到的跟他索取
沒想到被說拿5樣東西已經很值錢了吧 為何還要拿喇叭?
自用的東西是不需考慮價格的 實不實用才是重點
除非我要轉賣才會去考慮到每個物品的價格吧?
2. 我不想全取 因為不是每樣東西自己都用的到
最後想下個總結:
1. 我不是因為沒拿到藍芽喇叭生氣,
而是覺得別人答應了自己卻沒做到 感覺被騙而不開心(過程入上所述)
2. 事後回信是我的過失,不理性的回應及說要丟掉物品 是很不成熟的(但實際上我沒丟)
可以在這邊再跟Roybaboon道歉
--
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