碩士-想轉學跟教授撕破臉 - 留學

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很久沒寫文了,但是看到底下的留言讓我滿訝異的,所以想說回應之外也邀請已經擔任教
職的板友們分享看法。
先說結論:假設原po在美國,以及沒有隱匿重要情節(例如同時跟其他老師鬧翻、告狀告
到學務長那邊、當TA的時候亂做等情事)<-這些是重要前提,那麼原po離開就離開了,如
果那位老師因此就混不下去的話那他恐怕不太適合學術界。
首先,學生會不會留下來本來就有一千零一種原因。我想對學生好就是希望他留下來,但
是萬一真的得離開,那我希望學生可以跟我好好講清楚,搞不好還能幫忙寫推薦信。沒辦
法,大概就是緣份已盡,大家好聚好散比較重要。做人留一線,日後好相見。之前努力爭
取來的就是認栽,投資有賺有賠,不過就是這樣。
至於我的學生跑掉日後會不會影響到我的學術生涯,我想這個看狀況。假如跑了一個學生
lab就會垮,那當然影響很大(只是原po既然只是念碩士而且還是當助教,那麼跟lab應該
沒什麼關係);但這種跑一個學生就倒店的老師我覺得還是不要跟比較好。
萬一系主任對我印象不好怎麼辦?嗯我覺得這種顧慮是多餘的,有把學生跑掉怪罪到指導
教授身上的系主任,代表系上風氣不好,老師應該追隨學生的腳步另謀高就。
萬一以後要不到TA怎麼辦?嗯... 除非是教學型的學校或者liberal arts college,不然
教授應該要努力寫grant來養助教與助理啊!我個人就是很魯拿不到grant所以沒有助教,
我的指導學生全部都是在職進修,根本就不需要當什麼A,所以我一學期將近兩百位學生
的考試作業我全部自己來。自己魯,怨不了人。
那我以後是不是看到台灣人就不給經費?啊這就是地圖炮啊!只是這地圖炮很常見,我也
偶爾心裡會對特定國家的留學生產生偏見,但也只能時時提醒自己不能這樣想。
所以換作是我,一個努力找錢來供養的學生跑了,我大概會有點氣餒,但我會想知道確切
原因(疫情當理由的話...除非回台灣,不然我個人覺得是藉口,我會逼問真實理由),
關係真的夠好的話應該是可以攤開來講的。但什麼學術生涯的污點啦、以後學術生涯完蛋
了啦、要被系主任討厭了啦、以後在系上黑掉了啦之類的想法就省省吧,有美國時間想這
個的話怎麼不去做研究寫教案?其他同事才沒有那個時間管你。我也不會強留學生,他就
是想走了你硬留他,日後想看兩相厭,何必?
至於找學生開刀更是不智,還透過書信的話真的就太蠢了,都幾歲的人了還留這種把柄?
學生就是會犯錯、會無厘頭,不然他當你同事就好了幹嘛當學生?
原po也不用留了,SEVIS都轉過去了有什麼好留的XD
當然,如果原po捅出什麼漏子那就是另當別論。看到很多災難性的想法,蠻好奇大家是怎
麼得到那些結論的?還是不同領域的風氣(我自己是在理組科系任教)。可以的話,也想
聽聽大家的想法。
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職的板友們分享看法。
先說結論:假設原po在美國,以及沒有隱匿重要情節(例如同時跟其他老師鬧翻、告狀告
到學務長那邊、當TA的時候亂做等情事)<-這些是重要前提,那麼原po離開就離開了,如
果那位老師因此就混不下去的話那他恐怕不太適合學術界。
首先,學生會不會留下來本來就有一千零一種原因。我想對學生好就是希望他留下來,但
是萬一真的得離開,那我希望學生可以跟我好好講清楚,搞不好還能幫忙寫推薦信。沒辦
法,大概就是緣份已盡,大家好聚好散比較重要。做人留一線,日後好相見。之前努力爭
取來的就是認栽,投資有賺有賠,不過就是這樣。
至於我的學生跑掉日後會不會影響到我的學術生涯,我想這個看狀況。假如跑了一個學生
lab就會垮,那當然影響很大(只是原po既然只是念碩士而且還是當助教,那麼跟lab應該
沒什麼關係);但這種跑一個學生就倒店的老師我覺得還是不要跟比較好。
萬一系主任對我印象不好怎麼辦?嗯我覺得這種顧慮是多餘的,有把學生跑掉怪罪到指導
教授身上的系主任,代表系上風氣不好,老師應該追隨學生的腳步另謀高就。
萬一以後要不到TA怎麼辦?嗯... 除非是教學型的學校或者liberal arts college,不然
教授應該要努力寫grant來養助教與助理啊!我個人就是很魯拿不到grant所以沒有助教,
我的指導學生全部都是在職進修,根本就不需要當什麼A,所以我一學期將近兩百位學生
的考試作業我全部自己來。自己魯,怨不了人。
那我以後是不是看到台灣人就不給經費?啊這就是地圖炮啊!只是這地圖炮很常見,我也
偶爾心裡會對特定國家的留學生產生偏見,但也只能時時提醒自己不能這樣想。
所以換作是我,一個努力找錢來供養的學生跑了,我大概會有點氣餒,但我會想知道確切
原因(疫情當理由的話...除非回台灣,不然我個人覺得是藉口,我會逼問真實理由),
關係真的夠好的話應該是可以攤開來講的。但什麼學術生涯的污點啦、以後學術生涯完蛋
了啦、要被系主任討厭了啦、以後在系上黑掉了啦之類的想法就省省吧,有美國時間想這
個的話怎麼不去做研究寫教案?其他同事才沒有那個時間管你。我也不會強留學生,他就
是想走了你硬留他,日後想看兩相厭,何必?
至於找學生開刀更是不智,還透過書信的話真的就太蠢了,都幾歲的人了還留這種把柄?
學生就是會犯錯、會無厘頭,不然他當你同事就好了幹嘛當學生?
原po也不用留了,SEVIS都轉過去了有什麼好留的XD
當然,如果原po捅出什麼漏子那就是另當別論。看到很多災難性的想法,蠻好奇大家是怎
麼得到那些結論的?還是不同領域的風氣(我自己是在理組科系任教)。可以的話,也想
聽聽大家的想法。
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