往美麗華的1573,怎麼周末只剩1小時1班車 - 基隆
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原文恕刪!
※ 引述《hurompton (hurompton)》之銘言:
: 之前很多人都認為基隆市區往台北市中心的國道客運,可以更深入台北各區,路線多元,
: 完全可以取代台鐵。但疫情之下,台鐵班次照舊,但國道客運現在減班的程度,已經到了
: 很難利用的程度了。如果本地人要搭都覺得不方便,那台北人想到基隆的話,不就感覺跟
: 到了中南部公車超難搭一樣? 反倒是台鐵誤點那5分鐘、10分鐘,在客運這樣的班距下,
: 相對而言變得沒什麼了~
之前很多人就提過,
基隆對於臺北,需要的是城際運輸。
台鐵是爛,但那種因為台鐵爛,
所以砍掉改捷運會更好的言論,實在是本末倒置。
除了臺北,哪個縣市最終有砍掉台鐵改捷運的?
臺中乃至於高雄等大城,還不是捷運化台鐵而不是再蓋一條捷運,
基隆有本錢說用捷運取代台鐵?
而且就連臺北,當初甚至也規劃過台鐵捷運化市民大道而還未有板南線的。
因為疫情也沒有砍班的台鐵,正就是因為那些人批評的台鐵還是台鐵局才可以做到,
要是捷運公司,班距就拉長了!
而這些日子吵的公司化,甚至民營化,票價班距不會調整?
也因為是台鐵,路線這麼長,才有可能一起分攤,
就好像客運業者所謂過往黃金路線截長補短。
一旦砍火車降格成捷運,基隆捷運有辦法自負盈虧?
你不會聽到高鐵拿來跑市內,結果卻聽到捷運拿來作為主要城際運輸?
------
再回到基隆各區連結臺北包裝成快捷公車的國道客運,
的確是善用了基隆擁有兩條國道的起始點,
但這所謂的快捷公車,
間接降低原PO提的以前基隆市區深入連結臺北各區的優勢。
快捷公車的路線類似各區擁有一條連結轉乘臺北捷運的捷運路線,
而非深入臺北各區,因為臺北端限定無法進城只能外圍,
柯P甚至只想趕這些客運到外圍轉運站,
如不是中央立委與柯P是對立政黨,才能施壓協調進到市府轉運站。
再者,也因為各區已擁有此路線,
也就排擠到過往各區市民得先搭乘市公車或客運進市區(排擠到市公車/客運運量),
再排擠到市區過往連結臺北各區的國道客運。
而這也是我反對目前此種廢台鐵重覆台鐵路線的捷運另一個理由,
選擇哪種運輸方式,各專家有各自看法。
但當市長之前推動快捷公車,以為可以養成不需要台鐵的習慣,
等到捷運蓋好,再找理由廢除快捷公車,
讓人流再度回歸市區搭乘嗎?
等那時候,是不是客運都倒一片了?
以為選擇剩一種,就能衝高捷運運量嗎?
但那時是不得不的選擇,票價時間可能都高出許多了!
還要忍受沒解決市區公車客運的問題?
------
把各區先連結到市區,優點就是運量較高了!
缺點就是轉乘到基隆市區,跟固定在臺北端的轉運站轉乘,
哪個方便?我想大家都有自己想法。
差別可能在於國道的不確定性,快很快,塞也很塞。
--
愛妳的心永不悔,想妳的情永不退,
想妳想到無法睡,
愛上妳是我不對,
忘了妳我學不會,
是否願意和我飛?妳卻沉默沒有回!
--
※ 引述《hurompton (hurompton)》之銘言:
: 之前很多人都認為基隆市區往台北市中心的國道客運,可以更深入台北各區,路線多元,
: 完全可以取代台鐵。但疫情之下,台鐵班次照舊,但國道客運現在減班的程度,已經到了
: 很難利用的程度了。如果本地人要搭都覺得不方便,那台北人想到基隆的話,不就感覺跟
: 到了中南部公車超難搭一樣? 反倒是台鐵誤點那5分鐘、10分鐘,在客運這樣的班距下,
: 相對而言變得沒什麼了~
之前很多人就提過,
基隆對於臺北,需要的是城際運輸。
台鐵是爛,但那種因為台鐵爛,
所以砍掉改捷運會更好的言論,實在是本末倒置。
除了臺北,哪個縣市最終有砍掉台鐵改捷運的?
臺中乃至於高雄等大城,還不是捷運化台鐵而不是再蓋一條捷運,
基隆有本錢說用捷運取代台鐵?
而且就連臺北,當初甚至也規劃過台鐵捷運化市民大道而還未有板南線的。
因為疫情也沒有砍班的台鐵,正就是因為那些人批評的台鐵還是台鐵局才可以做到,
要是捷運公司,班距就拉長了!
而這些日子吵的公司化,甚至民營化,票價班距不會調整?
也因為是台鐵,路線這麼長,才有可能一起分攤,
就好像客運業者所謂過往黃金路線截長補短。
一旦砍火車降格成捷運,基隆捷運有辦法自負盈虧?
你不會聽到高鐵拿來跑市內,結果卻聽到捷運拿來作為主要城際運輸?
------
再回到基隆各區連結臺北包裝成快捷公車的國道客運,
的確是善用了基隆擁有兩條國道的起始點,
但這所謂的快捷公車,
間接降低原PO提的以前基隆市區深入連結臺北各區的優勢。
快捷公車的路線類似各區擁有一條連結轉乘臺北捷運的捷運路線,
而非深入臺北各區,因為臺北端限定無法進城只能外圍,
柯P甚至只想趕這些客運到外圍轉運站,
如不是中央立委與柯P是對立政黨,才能施壓協調進到市府轉運站。
再者,也因為各區已擁有此路線,
也就排擠到過往各區市民得先搭乘市公車或客運進市區(排擠到市公車/客運運量),
再排擠到市區過往連結臺北各區的國道客運。
而這也是我反對目前此種廢台鐵重覆台鐵路線的捷運另一個理由,
選擇哪種運輸方式,各專家有各自看法。
但當市長之前推動快捷公車,以為可以養成不需要台鐵的習慣,
等到捷運蓋好,再找理由廢除快捷公車,
讓人流再度回歸市區搭乘嗎?
等那時候,是不是客運都倒一片了?
以為選擇剩一種,就能衝高捷運運量嗎?
但那時是不得不的選擇,票價時間可能都高出許多了!
還要忍受沒解決市區公車客運的問題?
------
把各區先連結到市區,優點就是運量較高了!
缺點就是轉乘到基隆市區,跟固定在臺北端的轉運站轉乘,
哪個方便?我想大家都有自己想法。
差別可能在於國道的不確定性,快很快,塞也很塞。
--
愛妳的心永不悔,想妳的情永不退,
想妳想到無法睡,
愛上妳是我不對,
忘了妳我學不會,
是否願意和我飛?妳卻沉默沒有回!
--
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