大埔里長!!!踹踹踹踹...踹共!!!(有影片) - 苗栗
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我相信應該有不少人都有過家裡被徵收的經驗,
而土地徵收法是否為惡法其主要癥結點在於使用法的人而非法本身。
我自己本身的經驗是小時候看過鯉魚潭水庫蓋的時候,
苗栗縣新開村大部分的農民被迫遷出新開村的事情。
以當時的感覺和看到大人們在煩憂移出新開後要怎麼生活的討論,
我實在很難想像知道要被徵收就高興得跳起來是什麼樣的畫面。
影片中大埔里長說,當知道要被徵收的時候,被徵收戶高興得跳起來。
如果那地方是你的家,那田地是你的地,會跳起來就有鬼了!!
事實上youtube還留有很多當時抗議的畫面,大埔里長的98%贊同說早已不攻自破。
只是時間已經推移過了幾年,如果當初沒簽下贊同書就一無所有的農民還得繼續往前走。
他們只是還得生活,而不代表他們贊同!!
就事論事講,這些98%同意戶有可能有一部分人是一開始就同意被徵收,
一部分人是因為沒有更好的選擇而只能簽同意書,
比例有多少我很想知道,因為我想知道大埔人的想法。
就土地的徵收我了解的是這樣,我想請問各位比我更早關注的人我的理解有錯否,
地→抽籤換地(原先面積的45%)
↘換錢(以縣政府認定的市價為標準,我記得好像市價好像一坪2萬)
地上物→換錢
(以縣政府的認定為主,昨天好像有公布一封信抗議補償金太低,是否為事實不知?)
影片中大埔里長還有蔡正元說換來的地好像會漲三倍,所以其實很合理,
然後他們覺得被徵收戶會高興得跳腳就是因為利益都歸徵收戶。
可是我怎麼感覺不是這麼回事,還是我真的太笨無法理解?????
如果是農地變建地,的確公告地價或者市價是有漲的,
但是你賣出以後不就等於把吃飯的傢伙賣給人家,然後短時間內吃得很飽??
長期算下來絕對是虧的,因為你的生財工具沒有了。
如果是建地換建地,土地比例也是以45%算的話不就虧了(我相信可能不是這比例),
而且如果你周圍一直在蓋房子當工地,我想短期間內的價格反而是降的。
其次地上建物換錢的部分,現在蓋房子多貴我想大家應該也有基礎的了解。
地上物的補償沒有超過你蓋房子的錢,基本都是虧的,更何況再蓋起來前你要住哪??
捫心自問,被徵收有這麼多問題,是我真的不會跳起來,
所以我不明白影片中大埔里長所說高興得跳起來的原因在哪??
--
#3 當你看到流浪漢被店家趕出餐廳,"你會怎麼做?" (What would you do?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjYFearUwbg
當你在地上撿到錢,你會怎麼做? (What would you do?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M57uu2CKhbQ
--
而土地徵收法是否為惡法其主要癥結點在於使用法的人而非法本身。
我自己本身的經驗是小時候看過鯉魚潭水庫蓋的時候,
苗栗縣新開村大部分的農民被迫遷出新開村的事情。
以當時的感覺和看到大人們在煩憂移出新開後要怎麼生活的討論,
我實在很難想像知道要被徵收就高興得跳起來是什麼樣的畫面。
影片中大埔里長說,當知道要被徵收的時候,被徵收戶高興得跳起來。
如果那地方是你的家,那田地是你的地,會跳起來就有鬼了!!
事實上youtube還留有很多當時抗議的畫面,大埔里長的98%贊同說早已不攻自破。
只是時間已經推移過了幾年,如果當初沒簽下贊同書就一無所有的農民還得繼續往前走。
他們只是還得生活,而不代表他們贊同!!
就事論事講,這些98%同意戶有可能有一部分人是一開始就同意被徵收,
一部分人是因為沒有更好的選擇而只能簽同意書,
比例有多少我很想知道,因為我想知道大埔人的想法。
就土地的徵收我了解的是這樣,我想請問各位比我更早關注的人我的理解有錯否,
地→抽籤換地(原先面積的45%)
↘換錢(以縣政府認定的市價為標準,我記得好像市價好像一坪2萬)
地上物→換錢
(以縣政府的認定為主,昨天好像有公布一封信抗議補償金太低,是否為事實不知?)
影片中大埔里長還有蔡正元說換來的地好像會漲三倍,所以其實很合理,
然後他們覺得被徵收戶會高興得跳腳就是因為利益都歸徵收戶。
可是我怎麼感覺不是這麼回事,還是我真的太笨無法理解?????
如果是農地變建地,的確公告地價或者市價是有漲的,
但是你賣出以後不就等於把吃飯的傢伙賣給人家,然後短時間內吃得很飽??
長期算下來絕對是虧的,因為你的生財工具沒有了。
如果是建地換建地,土地比例也是以45%算的話不就虧了(我相信可能不是這比例),
而且如果你周圍一直在蓋房子當工地,我想短期間內的價格反而是降的。
其次地上建物換錢的部分,現在蓋房子多貴我想大家應該也有基礎的了解。
地上物的補償沒有超過你蓋房子的錢,基本都是虧的,更何況再蓋起來前你要住哪??
捫心自問,被徵收有這麼多問題,是我真的不會跳起來,
所以我不明白影片中大埔里長所說高興得跳起來的原因在哪??
--
#3 當你看到流浪漢被店家趕出餐廳,"你會怎麼做?" (What would you do?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjYFearUwbg
當你在地上撿到錢,你會怎麼做? (What would you do?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M57uu2CKhbQ
--
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