地下化到底要多久? 台鐵:16年以上 - 桃園中壢
By Bennie
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很多人都對地下化到底要多少錢?要多久?很有意見。
其實公聽會上早有答案
詳細內容請看
「臺鐵都會區捷運化桃園段高架化建設計畫」案(平鎮市)
第一場公聽會會議紀錄
http://goo.gl/HMBO89
直接講重點
經費約1200億,期程約16年以上
桃園站跟中壢站要重新設計
航空城捷運線工程、機場捷運延伸線工程必須配合修正
採用明挖覆蓋法徵收範圍擴大
有關地下化台鐵的說明
節錄 編號五的回覆
A)本計畫採用地下化,則航空城捷運線工程[其G07車站與臺鐵桃園站共構]、機場捷
運延伸線[其A23站位於臺鐵中壢火車站下方]工程必須配合修正,可能對該計畫造成影響
B)受限於鐵路縱坡度限制,地下化距離需變長(約19公里),經費亦需增加(約1200億元)。
C)須重新辦理規劃、可行性研究、及環境評估等程序,計畫期程預估將由9年增加至
16年以上。
D)地下化採用明挖覆蓋工法,所需路權寬度不比高架化小,土地徵收與建物拆遷量
可能增加。
E)路線未來擴增不易。
F)需增加交通維持/渠道維持。
G)需設置通風、空調設置、排煙等消耗能源。
H)地下化噪音、振動影響應會較高架化輕微,但仍需考量地表振動引致之結構噪音。
個人感想
經費
絕對超過1200億
擴大徵收範圍,經費絕對會暴增,
再加上重新設計的桃園、內壢跟中壢站,還有修正的捷運路線
而且國際路站、中原站跟平鎮站還有沒有也不知道
沒有1500~1800億,應該做不起來吧?
地方自籌經費三分之一,500~600億,但是桃園一年的地方稅收才200億
沒有中央給錢,絕對不可能做出來
這個時候就會有經費排擠效應
你給了桃園錢,那其他地方怎麼辦?
計畫期程
台鐵說16年以上
但是加上DPP選上總統更改垃圾12計畫,再加二年
期間桃園縣長四年期間因一事無成,落選
擴大徵收遭遇抗爭再加二年
總統四年又一事無成,落選
這樣至少就20年,假如不小心挖到XX古蹟或XX遺址
碰!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
整個計畫就完蛋了
20年內我們要付出甚麼代價???
影響大約120萬使用人
沿線17個平交道上再死好幾個人
內壢中華路繼續塞車塞到死
但是只要再三年,高架化就要完成了!!!
地下化的難度真的非常非常的高
縣長跟總統沒有連任,都是不可能辦到的
除非下任總統有GUTS,把垃圾12建設通通砍掉,更改計畫
不然地下化就是一場夢..........
最後
台鐵有GUTS就繼續蓋高架
然後另一邊截彎取直
新蓋一條鐵路在東邊
再把原來的鐵路改為捷運路線
就皆大歡喜啦
解決交通問題是市長最重要的問題與責任
--
其實公聽會上早有答案
詳細內容請看
「臺鐵都會區捷運化桃園段高架化建設計畫」案(平鎮市)
第一場公聽會會議紀錄
http://goo.gl/HMBO89
直接講重點
經費約1200億,期程約16年以上
桃園站跟中壢站要重新設計
航空城捷運線工程、機場捷運延伸線工程必須配合修正
採用明挖覆蓋法徵收範圍擴大
有關地下化台鐵的說明
節錄 編號五的回覆
A)本計畫採用地下化,則航空城捷運線工程[其G07車站與臺鐵桃園站共構]、機場捷
運延伸線[其A23站位於臺鐵中壢火車站下方]工程必須配合修正,可能對該計畫造成影響
B)受限於鐵路縱坡度限制,地下化距離需變長(約19公里),經費亦需增加(約1200億元)。
C)須重新辦理規劃、可行性研究、及環境評估等程序,計畫期程預估將由9年增加至
16年以上。
D)地下化採用明挖覆蓋工法,所需路權寬度不比高架化小,土地徵收與建物拆遷量
可能增加。
E)路線未來擴增不易。
F)需增加交通維持/渠道維持。
G)需設置通風、空調設置、排煙等消耗能源。
H)地下化噪音、振動影響應會較高架化輕微,但仍需考量地表振動引致之結構噪音。
個人感想
經費
絕對超過1200億
擴大徵收範圍,經費絕對會暴增,
再加上重新設計的桃園、內壢跟中壢站,還有修正的捷運路線
而且國際路站、中原站跟平鎮站還有沒有也不知道
沒有1500~1800億,應該做不起來吧?
地方自籌經費三分之一,500~600億,但是桃園一年的地方稅收才200億
沒有中央給錢,絕對不可能做出來
這個時候就會有經費排擠效應
你給了桃園錢,那其他地方怎麼辦?
計畫期程
台鐵說16年以上
但是加上DPP選上總統更改垃圾12計畫,再加二年
期間桃園縣長四年期間因一事無成,落選
擴大徵收遭遇抗爭再加二年
總統四年又一事無成,落選
這樣至少就20年,假如不小心挖到XX古蹟或XX遺址
碰!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
整個計畫就完蛋了
20年內我們要付出甚麼代價???
影響大約120萬使用人
沿線17個平交道上再死好幾個人
內壢中華路繼續塞車塞到死
但是只要再三年,高架化就要完成了!!!
地下化的難度真的非常非常的高
縣長跟總統沒有連任,都是不可能辦到的
除非下任總統有GUTS,把垃圾12建設通通砍掉,更改計畫
不然地下化就是一場夢..........
最後
台鐵有GUTS就繼續蓋高架
然後另一邊截彎取直
新蓋一條鐵路在東邊
再把原來的鐵路改為捷運路線
就皆大歡喜啦
解決交通問題是市長最重要的問題與責任
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