反黑箱服貿 宜蘭e起來 大團結活動 - 宜蘭
By Enid
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我從來就沒有反對過抗議服貿的人..
我也不是支持黑箱服貿..就僅僅是黑箱服貿..
而自始至終的是
我認為那群大多數在抗議的學生是完全搞不懂自己在抗議什麼..
服貿條例通過後你們知道什麼是服貿嗎?
服貿條例通過後你們有無認真去過看完服貿的條文嗎?
黑箱作業不是你們一開始就知道的嗎?
所以大多數的人看的都是所謂的懶人包服貿..
而當你有特定的立場是去支持或不支持時..
那麼主筆寫文的人對文章會有很深的影響..
一開始的主軸是反黑箱服貿沒錯吧?
那麼你們在抗議時不就是反黑箱但不反服貿嗎?
而既然是黑箱作業在一開始大家的知道的時候
你抗議的主軸為什麼不講反服貿而是講反黑箱作業?
是不是當大多數的民氣可用時..
反而讓原本有心人士的操弄目的達到了..
所以接下來就利用這股民氣去為所慾為?
如果你們一堆人連抗議的目標都不知道在..只知道跟人家喊抗議..
從反黑箱服貿要逐條審查..到現在反服貿要退回..
然後現在的是所有立法行政院的破壞都要馬英九來負責..
所以你們一開始直接喊馬英九賣台要求他下台當主軸不就好了?
要很熱血的去參與國家大事真的是很好..
但你們去抗議時請先將功課做足..而不是人家喊神功護體你們就跟著喊..
如果今天你們連抗議的背後只是聽人家說就跟著去抗議..
而且未認真的知道是為了什麼原因而讓你們想去抗議..
其實你們這種舉動不叫熱血..而是被人利用了還不知道..
還整今護台灣愛台灣的喊..搞的好像沒去參加就是不護台灣不愛台灣了..
我在說一次..我不反對抗議..
而是一開始你們就知道是「黑箱服貿」的時候..
那時候的主軸直接喊出反服貿/反中共就好了..
真的不需要那麼道貌岸然的喊出救台灣..反黑箱作業..
因為最終是反服貿/反中國才是真..反什麼黑箱都是假的..
※ 引述《Y1999 (y1999)》之銘言:
: FOSSIL:現在的主軸明明是反服貿,而不是反黑箱服貿吧 03/28 16:32
: 其實你要說訴求一直再變,某種程度上可以,但請理解會變的原因
: 最一開始的服貿(就是現在版本),假設我們稱為1.0,這個1.0版呢
: 從談判過程,到回國開公聽會(20場),立院開會(經典30秒)
: 幾乎可以說完全處於黑箱狀態,只是大眾一直到了30秒事件才開始關注
: 場內的意向很簡單,就是不要黑箱
: 既然1.0在黑箱重重下產生,那反黑箱=反1.0也是很合情合理
: 但是場內從來沒有反對,去重新談一個公開合法無黑箱的服貿2.0
: 可是就在這當下,忽然發現,國內沒有任何法條可以去監督談判過程
: 於是才有了研申訴求:兩岸監督條例的立法
: 所以不少人認為,場內從反黑箱=>反服貿=>要立法,一直再變
: 但這都是因為,國內沒有一個完備的機制,才搞到場內一直要幫忙補洞
: 不然假設1.0真的退了,然後半年後再給你一個黑箱2.0,有差別喔...
: 場內的訴求,說直接一點,簽一個有制度監督且不黑箱,對人民有利的服貿
: 只是鬼島政黨媒體手法,天知地知你知我知,然後學生又一直沒仔細解釋
: 假設場內真的反所有服貿,他還要一個兩岸監督條例要爽的嗎....
: heysongwu:請問主講者是??不想單純的學運過度染上政治色彩 03/28 17:12
: 服貿本身就是政治,不可能沒政治色彩,當你對政治漠不關心
: 後果就是別人幫你決定一切,如果你想說政黨色彩,我只能說多多少少一定有
: 為什麼身為政黨人員,不能對政治提出自己的看法,無論正反意見
: 政黨組成就是為了政治,然後要一個政治議題不能有政黨看法
: 那真的滿奇怪就是了....學運從來就不單純,反政府一定會吸引到在野黨
: 支持政府的言論也一定會吸引到執政黨(白色正義社會聯盟)
: 當初野百合學運的學生,一堆現再也都在在野黨理面
: 只要他不要跑錯場合喊凍蒜(這被罵死剛好),他的看法當然可以參考
: 不然每個學者專家自己也會有立場,是不是都不要聽了...
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