關於太魯閣號 - 花蓮
By Una
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我覺得太魯閣號無座加收票價50%是否合理是很值得討論的問題
觀察這個問題我會以兩個觀點來切入
1. 無座乘客對有座位乘客的影響是否構成合理加收票價的理由?
就台鐵現行除太魯閣號外的車種來看,此答案為 否
台鐵其餘對號車種站票是打折的,也就是說的確如很多人所提,
站票乘客多少對有位置的人帶來困擾,但就此點而言,並不構成
站票加價的理由。 相反,由於站票是不舒適的,甚至可能以較低
票價出售。 站/座票 本身同等票價而不同的舒適度,本身已經構
成一種選擇壓力:若非無更佳選擇,何必花一樣的錢用站的?
2.太魯閣號是否無法安全乘載站票乘客?
台灣目前因為安全考量,有多種交通工具是法令明訂無站票的,例如國道客運
,如飛機。
為了保障乘客的安全,航運公司是不能販售站票,而且是嚴格控管的。
如果站立搭乘太魯閣號將造成站立乘客生命或身體上的安全危險,台鐵應該
拿出確實的證據,促成收改相關規定,並且確實宣導。更重要的事,應該在發車
前確實檢查無站立者,有的話應立即處置,而不是以加收票價來處置。
就第一點而言,若太魯閣號僅為較不舒適,但並不構成搭乘者身體或
生命安全的威脅,加收票價顯然是不合理的。
就第二點而言,台鐵目前的作為並沒有實際的數據證明在太魯閣號行
進過程中站立搭乘會有生命/身體上受傷的危險,在宣導時亦未就此點
多加說明,作法上有需要改進的地方。 相對的,在靠站時並沒有嚴格
執行排除無票民眾,是否就已經隱含了無票搭乘並沒有那麼危險?
最後由我自己的經驗做個小結,我常常往來花蓮台北之間,也常坐
太魯閣,的確太魯閣號是較搖晃不舒適的,但是我覺得並沒有到站著
搭會有危險的狀態(跟台北市公車比簡直是平穩到不行)。而對花東線來說
,火車作為幾乎是唯一的大眾交通工具,尤其對熱門時段來說,站票還是有
需求的。 我的通勤時間很固定而且非熱門時段,也很熟稔於網路購票流程,
通常都能順利買到我需要的車票。 但是在常跑車站的拿票經驗中,我知道有
很多人並不是固定通勤族,也不熟悉網路或電話買票流程,因為買不到位置而跟
站務員說買站票的。上個禮拜我搭到一班往台東的車回來,人很多,車廂間的
走道就塞了四五個人,有人坐在階梯上吃便當,有人站著打噸。車廂走道內沒有幾位
站立的乘客,大部分無座的人會站在最後的空位或車廂與車廂之間。
的確,當有人站立是沒有那麼舒適,但是在沒有安全顧慮的狀態下我不認為
這是一個不賣站票的理由。大家都想舒服的回家,不能舒服的回家,還是要回家。
在很多熱門時段,花東線的快車座位,買的到,叫幸運。
太魯閣號站立有安全顧慮嗎?
有的話我認為台鐵應該拿出更強而有力的證據來說明,並且加強宣導。
如果沒有,我認為加收五成票價是不合理的。
此外,如果確實有安全顧慮,無法賣站票。
把快車分成兩倍票價的貴賓座,及正常票價的一般座是更合理的作法。
把沒有位置的人收1.5倍的車票錢? 我認為非常不合理。
最後,期待有座位的人對無座者多一點寬容。會站太魯閣號的人,沒有想
撈什麼便宜,也不是特別偷懶買票,只是在某些情況下,就是只能這樣。
我知道,因為我曾經站著搭過一次太魯閣號,很不舒服的經驗,搖晃又遇上空調不好
,在車廂跟車廂間好像幾乎沒空調似的,難受的很。
撈著什麼便宜呢? 沒有,票還比較貴呢
經歷過這麼唯一的一次,之後我對偶而看到站著搭太魯閣號的人,從來沒
覺得他們干擾了什麼或他們幹嘛不守規定的抱怨了。 需要在這個時間回家
,即使又貴又累又不舒服,還要苛責什麼呢? 台鐵雖然是國營公司,但是
台鐵的販售/服務規則不是法律。 太魯閣號不能站立一事並不是中華民國法律,
有人以違反交通規則來做類比,我認為是失當了。
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觀察這個問題我會以兩個觀點來切入
1. 無座乘客對有座位乘客的影響是否構成合理加收票價的理由?
就台鐵現行除太魯閣號外的車種來看,此答案為 否
台鐵其餘對號車種站票是打折的,也就是說的確如很多人所提,
站票乘客多少對有位置的人帶來困擾,但就此點而言,並不構成
站票加價的理由。 相反,由於站票是不舒適的,甚至可能以較低
票價出售。 站/座票 本身同等票價而不同的舒適度,本身已經構
成一種選擇壓力:若非無更佳選擇,何必花一樣的錢用站的?
2.太魯閣號是否無法安全乘載站票乘客?
台灣目前因為安全考量,有多種交通工具是法令明訂無站票的,例如國道客運
,如飛機。
為了保障乘客的安全,航運公司是不能販售站票,而且是嚴格控管的。
如果站立搭乘太魯閣號將造成站立乘客生命或身體上的安全危險,台鐵應該
拿出確實的證據,促成收改相關規定,並且確實宣導。更重要的事,應該在發車
前確實檢查無站立者,有的話應立即處置,而不是以加收票價來處置。
就第一點而言,若太魯閣號僅為較不舒適,但並不構成搭乘者身體或
生命安全的威脅,加收票價顯然是不合理的。
就第二點而言,台鐵目前的作為並沒有實際的數據證明在太魯閣號行
進過程中站立搭乘會有生命/身體上受傷的危險,在宣導時亦未就此點
多加說明,作法上有需要改進的地方。 相對的,在靠站時並沒有嚴格
執行排除無票民眾,是否就已經隱含了無票搭乘並沒有那麼危險?
最後由我自己的經驗做個小結,我常常往來花蓮台北之間,也常坐
太魯閣,的確太魯閣號是較搖晃不舒適的,但是我覺得並沒有到站著
搭會有危險的狀態(跟台北市公車比簡直是平穩到不行)。而對花東線來說
,火車作為幾乎是唯一的大眾交通工具,尤其對熱門時段來說,站票還是有
需求的。 我的通勤時間很固定而且非熱門時段,也很熟稔於網路購票流程,
通常都能順利買到我需要的車票。 但是在常跑車站的拿票經驗中,我知道有
很多人並不是固定通勤族,也不熟悉網路或電話買票流程,因為買不到位置而跟
站務員說買站票的。上個禮拜我搭到一班往台東的車回來,人很多,車廂間的
走道就塞了四五個人,有人坐在階梯上吃便當,有人站著打噸。車廂走道內沒有幾位
站立的乘客,大部分無座的人會站在最後的空位或車廂與車廂之間。
的確,當有人站立是沒有那麼舒適,但是在沒有安全顧慮的狀態下我不認為
這是一個不賣站票的理由。大家都想舒服的回家,不能舒服的回家,還是要回家。
在很多熱門時段,花東線的快車座位,買的到,叫幸運。
太魯閣號站立有安全顧慮嗎?
有的話我認為台鐵應該拿出更強而有力的證據來說明,並且加強宣導。
如果沒有,我認為加收五成票價是不合理的。
此外,如果確實有安全顧慮,無法賣站票。
把快車分成兩倍票價的貴賓座,及正常票價的一般座是更合理的作法。
把沒有位置的人收1.5倍的車票錢? 我認為非常不合理。
最後,期待有座位的人對無座者多一點寬容。會站太魯閣號的人,沒有想
撈什麼便宜,也不是特別偷懶買票,只是在某些情況下,就是只能這樣。
我知道,因為我曾經站著搭過一次太魯閣號,很不舒服的經驗,搖晃又遇上空調不好
,在車廂跟車廂間好像幾乎沒空調似的,難受的很。
撈著什麼便宜呢? 沒有,票還比較貴呢
經歷過這麼唯一的一次,之後我對偶而看到站著搭太魯閣號的人,從來沒
覺得他們干擾了什麼或他們幹嘛不守規定的抱怨了。 需要在這個時間回家
,即使又貴又累又不舒服,還要苛責什麼呢? 台鐵雖然是國營公司,但是
台鐵的販售/服務規則不是法律。 太魯閣號不能站立一事並不是中華民國法律,
有人以違反交通規則來做類比,我認為是失當了。
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