關於「討M文一事」的澄清 - 新莊

By Emma
at 2009-06-11T12:16
at 2009-06-11T12:16
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版主好,各位版友好,我是連長(一個莫名奇妙被捲入紛爭的人):
今天一上新莊版就看到了版主的言論……
chairlechiu版主….我的確是認識你沒錯,可我從來不希望會因此有特權或怎樣,
只要你保持著公開公正的中立態度,對小小的版民我來說就是很棒的版主了。
但如今你竟然扭曲事實成這樣,老實說,原本把你當成大哥看待的我,
事事尊重及顧慮你想法、當你遭受質疑還為你辯護,
你自己捫心自問我有多少次是站在版主的立場。
如今,你卻這樣說我!? 對你脫序的舉動我『非常失望』。
我今天不做生意,也要捍衛我的人格,不容污衊。
這麼單純且沒有利益糾葛的小事竟然有辦法被講成這樣,我真是服了你的小題大作了,
M不M文很重要嗎?版主,這只不過是各地方板吧?
而且,你現在的行為才算是【號召版友,聲援版主】吧!?
我就一個個回應你吧。
★1.先就你所說的逼宮來看,今天你把我冠上一個好大的罪名「聚眾聲援討m文」。
老實說,我沒這麼無聊,而且說真的,M了又怎樣?我會得到什麼?有利益糾葛嗎?
也許我短視近利~但我完全看不到我會因此獲得什麼,更不會無聊到請人來討M~
你初期跳過不M,被某些板友質疑不公,甚至要找版務申訴時,我也找理由幫你解釋,
並且找你相談………而且我並沒有這麼多時間拉人聲援……
如果說大家主動看不過去幫我聲援也要算在我頭上,那我只好隨你說了。
我是對新莊這塊土地和人群有感情,但我對新莊版版主一點興趣都沒有,
請不要拿你的臆測來衡量別人是不是要搶你的版主大位,請你安心的穩坐下去吧。
★2.至於第二點重發自介文的理由,可能你就是自砸石頭了,先說說你的前例吧,
我窩再新莊版也有兩三年了,也看過了不少重發自介依然被M的狀況,
或是一個月內發兩篇自介也被M,說說後者吧:
你先M了第一篇後,竟然還在第二篇自介推文問版友說要留下哪一個,
才幫他改M成第二篇(需要看證據時我再提供給你)
其實當初我根本沒注意到你跳過我不M,而是有人為我抱不平後才知道的,
然後沒什麼改文的自介你M了,我認真寫了一篇新的自介,說真的,
幾年前幾年後除了ID一樣,其他都差不少,
配合你的說法,光工作就不一樣了吧(你文中有說換工作可po自介),
何況你之前有先例,標準是可以這麼多套的嗎?
然後被提出質疑後惱羞成怒找人相挺??
今天重點是你這樣偏心且不公平的待遇讓人感到不舒服,
我在乎的只是一種最基本對人的尊重。
如果今天是我做錯了我無話可說,但在那麼多位板友的質疑及詢問下,
我已經無法再替你說話了。
★3.請看看新莊版版規第一則吧,我完全是遵照裡面的申訴三步驟在走的,
第一關被你卡了,我本來想說算了~
不走第二關找組務申訴了(事後版友的質疑也不是我弄的啊),
結果你自己跳到第三關
「三、不滿組務判決才可以在板上提出抗議,最後以大家的決定為主。」
我想讓的…不…我一直都是以和為貴的,
結果你這樣PO上版找人聲援,不是逼迫我為保護自己而戰嗎?
可以別在軟土深掘了嗎!!
★4.當初在別的版友建議下才有了重PO自介的想法,
也在詢問過版主的意見之後才真正付出實踐,
並不是所謂的因為我是連長所以我重PO自介就一定要你M起來的說法,
如果當初在私下詢問的結果是,由於礙於版主要公正的身分所以不能M的話我認了,
不過沒有人這樣顛三倒四,之前說可以,現在又說不行的說法,
難道所謂的版主可以不了解自己的話說出口有多大的責任要負嗎?
★5.如果說今天有人敘述自己的成長歷程和工作歷程和表達出對新莊的熱愛的文章,
被說成是廣告嫌疑,換作是你,你會不會覺得委屈無奈?
一篇自介文是會有多少廣告效應?會不會點進去看都還不知道呢,
可以不要把別人單純的想法套用在自己複雜的心思裡嗎?
我原本最初的想法只是想要表達我有多熱愛這塊土地及在這塊土地上孕育的人們,
現在卻被敘述的如此不堪?
★6. 連長這個身份沒有什麼了不起,
沒有到所謂的走在路上每個人都會搶著來跟我拍照、握手,這樣叫有名嗎?
現在你卻要以我是版上的公眾人物所以要「放大標準」來審識,
然後對其他人又是用另外一種標準,難道在版上也要用階級制度來處理事情嗎?
現在是民主社會,再也不是以前的體制社會,加上版主處理事情難道不用統一標準嗎?
全憑主觀來認定一件事,那這個地方板『新莊版』,不如直接進入戒嚴時期吧?
★7.板主本來就要做到公正公開…一句私人情緒問題…
就可以扭曲板規及原本談論的主題…那板規是訂來給別人看的嗎?
不想讓人重複發自介文…就不應該破例…既然你已經不舒服了…
那就應該訂出一個新的、合理的版規來吧!
★8.先前與你談論m文的事,我也不是要優文還是怎樣,
我只是希望能夠汰舊換新,讓大家認識現在的我。
板主你那時MSN對我說的是:
【畢竟 我一看到你這篇 第一個反應其實是要砍文處理 但是我沒動
跳過是收錄必要的問題 你是板上的名人
你的一舉一動 會影響後來處理事情的標準 不能說你想要怎麼處理我就得照處理】
那請問我當下該做何反應?
我當初是用詢問的語氣,並不是像你所認定的命令語氣,
如果是命令,我也不用像之前那樣好言好語的詢問呀。
我在新莊版交朋友根本就沒有用生意人的姿態去和人搏感情,
如果是這樣我就不會常揪團和大家一起出去玩的很開心了
(揪團很累的~有玩過社團的就知道Q_Q)
去問看看我對誰主動做過生意了!!
全是因為大家是同鄉、是鄰居而相交的,
但關於嘟嘟燒的文章,在板上一再的被冠上廣告嫌疑長期下來我都忍了,
可今天身為版主的你公開指責,請問我是有因此賺錢嗎?
很多時候我給版友的優惠都是作白工的,只因為『義氣』兩個字而已,
並不是每個人都是如你想像是那麼會算計的。
不好意思,打了一篇這麼長的文,佔了這麼多的板面篇幅。
對新莊的眾板友實在過意不去,我也不想讓溫馨的新莊板變調,
也沒有想挑戰板主的權威的意思,只是覺得之前板主私底下跟我講的話,
跟現在處理的一些態度及方式讓我感到很不舒服而已!
我也只是想表達一些我個人的想法,
只希望板主能夠做到最基本的公平公正公開,
沒有任何更多的要求!
M文對我沒什麼好處,沒什麼利益!
只是對你的偏頗有些許的不滿與微詞!!
謝謝大家!
優文只是個虛幻的東西罷了,我不想要,也不在乎。
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今天一上新莊版就看到了版主的言論……
chairlechiu版主….我的確是認識你沒錯,可我從來不希望會因此有特權或怎樣,
只要你保持著公開公正的中立態度,對小小的版民我來說就是很棒的版主了。
但如今你竟然扭曲事實成這樣,老實說,原本把你當成大哥看待的我,
事事尊重及顧慮你想法、當你遭受質疑還為你辯護,
你自己捫心自問我有多少次是站在版主的立場。
如今,你卻這樣說我!? 對你脫序的舉動我『非常失望』。
我今天不做生意,也要捍衛我的人格,不容污衊。
這麼單純且沒有利益糾葛的小事竟然有辦法被講成這樣,我真是服了你的小題大作了,
M不M文很重要嗎?版主,這只不過是各地方板吧?
而且,你現在的行為才算是【號召版友,聲援版主】吧!?
我就一個個回應你吧。
★1.先就你所說的逼宮來看,今天你把我冠上一個好大的罪名「聚眾聲援討m文」。
老實說,我沒這麼無聊,而且說真的,M了又怎樣?我會得到什麼?有利益糾葛嗎?
也許我短視近利~但我完全看不到我會因此獲得什麼,更不會無聊到請人來討M~
你初期跳過不M,被某些板友質疑不公,甚至要找版務申訴時,我也找理由幫你解釋,
並且找你相談………而且我並沒有這麼多時間拉人聲援……
如果說大家主動看不過去幫我聲援也要算在我頭上,那我只好隨你說了。
我是對新莊這塊土地和人群有感情,但我對新莊版版主一點興趣都沒有,
請不要拿你的臆測來衡量別人是不是要搶你的版主大位,請你安心的穩坐下去吧。
★2.至於第二點重發自介文的理由,可能你就是自砸石頭了,先說說你的前例吧,
我窩再新莊版也有兩三年了,也看過了不少重發自介依然被M的狀況,
或是一個月內發兩篇自介也被M,說說後者吧:
你先M了第一篇後,竟然還在第二篇自介推文問版友說要留下哪一個,
才幫他改M成第二篇(需要看證據時我再提供給你)
其實當初我根本沒注意到你跳過我不M,而是有人為我抱不平後才知道的,
然後沒什麼改文的自介你M了,我認真寫了一篇新的自介,說真的,
幾年前幾年後除了ID一樣,其他都差不少,
配合你的說法,光工作就不一樣了吧(你文中有說換工作可po自介),
何況你之前有先例,標準是可以這麼多套的嗎?
然後被提出質疑後惱羞成怒找人相挺??
今天重點是你這樣偏心且不公平的待遇讓人感到不舒服,
我在乎的只是一種最基本對人的尊重。
如果今天是我做錯了我無話可說,但在那麼多位板友的質疑及詢問下,
我已經無法再替你說話了。
★3.請看看新莊版版規第一則吧,我完全是遵照裡面的申訴三步驟在走的,
第一關被你卡了,我本來想說算了~
不走第二關找組務申訴了(事後版友的質疑也不是我弄的啊),
結果你自己跳到第三關
「三、不滿組務判決才可以在板上提出抗議,最後以大家的決定為主。」
我想讓的…不…我一直都是以和為貴的,
結果你這樣PO上版找人聲援,不是逼迫我為保護自己而戰嗎?
可以別在軟土深掘了嗎!!
★4.當初在別的版友建議下才有了重PO自介的想法,
也在詢問過版主的意見之後才真正付出實踐,
並不是所謂的因為我是連長所以我重PO自介就一定要你M起來的說法,
如果當初在私下詢問的結果是,由於礙於版主要公正的身分所以不能M的話我認了,
不過沒有人這樣顛三倒四,之前說可以,現在又說不行的說法,
難道所謂的版主可以不了解自己的話說出口有多大的責任要負嗎?
★5.如果說今天有人敘述自己的成長歷程和工作歷程和表達出對新莊的熱愛的文章,
被說成是廣告嫌疑,換作是你,你會不會覺得委屈無奈?
一篇自介文是會有多少廣告效應?會不會點進去看都還不知道呢,
可以不要把別人單純的想法套用在自己複雜的心思裡嗎?
我原本最初的想法只是想要表達我有多熱愛這塊土地及在這塊土地上孕育的人們,
現在卻被敘述的如此不堪?
★6. 連長這個身份沒有什麼了不起,
沒有到所謂的走在路上每個人都會搶著來跟我拍照、握手,這樣叫有名嗎?
現在你卻要以我是版上的公眾人物所以要「放大標準」來審識,
然後對其他人又是用另外一種標準,難道在版上也要用階級制度來處理事情嗎?
現在是民主社會,再也不是以前的體制社會,加上版主處理事情難道不用統一標準嗎?
全憑主觀來認定一件事,那這個地方板『新莊版』,不如直接進入戒嚴時期吧?
★7.板主本來就要做到公正公開…一句私人情緒問題…
就可以扭曲板規及原本談論的主題…那板規是訂來給別人看的嗎?
不想讓人重複發自介文…就不應該破例…既然你已經不舒服了…
那就應該訂出一個新的、合理的版規來吧!
★8.先前與你談論m文的事,我也不是要優文還是怎樣,
我只是希望能夠汰舊換新,讓大家認識現在的我。
板主你那時MSN對我說的是:
【畢竟 我一看到你這篇 第一個反應其實是要砍文處理 但是我沒動
跳過是收錄必要的問題 你是板上的名人
你的一舉一動 會影響後來處理事情的標準 不能說你想要怎麼處理我就得照處理】
那請問我當下該做何反應?
我當初是用詢問的語氣,並不是像你所認定的命令語氣,
如果是命令,我也不用像之前那樣好言好語的詢問呀。
我在新莊版交朋友根本就沒有用生意人的姿態去和人搏感情,
如果是這樣我就不會常揪團和大家一起出去玩的很開心了
(揪團很累的~有玩過社團的就知道Q_Q)
去問看看我對誰主動做過生意了!!
全是因為大家是同鄉、是鄰居而相交的,
但關於嘟嘟燒的文章,在板上一再的被冠上廣告嫌疑長期下來我都忍了,
可今天身為版主的你公開指責,請問我是有因此賺錢嗎?
很多時候我給版友的優惠都是作白工的,只因為『義氣』兩個字而已,
並不是每個人都是如你想像是那麼會算計的。
不好意思,打了一篇這麼長的文,佔了這麼多的板面篇幅。
對新莊的眾板友實在過意不去,我也不想讓溫馨的新莊板變調,
也沒有想挑戰板主的權威的意思,只是覺得之前板主私底下跟我講的話,
跟現在處理的一些態度及方式讓我感到很不舒服而已!
我也只是想表達一些我個人的想法,
只希望板主能夠做到最基本的公平公正公開,
沒有任何更多的要求!
M文對我沒什麼好處,沒什麼利益!
只是對你的偏頗有些許的不滿與微詞!!
謝謝大家!
優文只是個虛幻的東西罷了,我不想要,也不在乎。
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