老人來談一下八德的地理位置 - 桃園

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我是土生土長的大湳人
年紀已經是大叔級了(甚至已經可以做有些人的爸爸了)
來談一下老大湳人所認知的各個八德的舊地名
八德的由來,有一說是是因為清朝時開墾此地最早是八戶人家
座落於三元宮八德市公所附近,有八幢房子
所以當地人叫自己的地方就說『有八幢房子的地方』
台語就說『八塊厝』(ㄅㄟˋ ㄉㄟ˙ ㄘㄨ˙,詳細發音請問耆老)
或簡稱『八塊』
後來因國民政府建立地政,才改名(或說比較好聽?)的『八德』
(就像雞籠改叫基隆一樣)
所以八德與四維八德的八德原來是不算有關係的
也因此,老一輩的八德人講『八德』都講『八塊』,就是這個原因
我常問人怎麼講八德,若講『八塊』,就是原來的住民
若講『八德』(ㄅㄟˋ ㄉ一ㄜˊ),就是後來搬來的新住民
以老一輩的人來說,『八德』狹義的說,是指三元宮八德市公所附近那裡才叫八德
八德市據說目前其實有近一半(甚至不只)的人口集中在大湳
大湳,實際上是一個地方的統稱
因為桃園因為是台地,加上農田灌溉需要,所以有許多池塘
(說到這裡,桃園農田水利會可是有名的)
除了一些小池塘外(比如說,美華泰那裡以前就是池塘,大忠國小以前也是池塘)
這附近最大的池塘就是和平路的那個池塘了
所以人家叫這個地方是『那個大池塘的地方』,就是大湳(湳:池塘)
雖然現在有因地政需要劃分的大湳里,但實際上『大湳』就是這個地方的統稱
範圍大概北到義勇街大智路附近,東到東勇街,西到國際路,南到目前大潤發附近
大湳會發展其實是因為台四線(就是介壽路)的關係
正好是桃園(介壽路)-中壢(廣福路)-大溪-鶯歌(和平路轉桃鶯路)-八德的一個交會
處
吸引了許多人口,就算現在,也是八德市內人口增長最快的地方
所以,其實老一輩的人不太講自己住在八德,而說自己住在大湳
也都自稱是大湳的人(ㄉㄨㄚˇ ㄋㄢ ㄚ ㄟ ㄌㄤˊ),就是這個原因
大湳往桃園過去,大概在介壽路大明街交叉口--中華電信(以前叫無線電台,因為那是中
華電信的發射站)
就是所謂的『小大湳』,我所知道是因為靠近大湳了,但是又沒有一個適合的地名,所以
被稱為小大湳
若以大湳往大溪方向過去,在目前麥當勞附近,舊名叫『麻園』
原因是那裡以前是一片種麻的農地
再過去,大概在現在東和鋼鐵過去一點,加貝爾幼稚園旁邊,舊名叫松柏林(目前門牌好
像也是編松柏林)
再過去,就到了介壽路興豐路交叉口,舊名叫『更寮腳』
更寮,有一說是『守更寮』之意,因為開墾時期盜賊橫行,所以當地人都會有守更警戒,
因此守更的地方稱為守更寮
慢慢再轉變成更寮,『腳』,以台語來說有地方之意,所以更寮腳就是守更寮所守更之地
現在因為規劃桃園捷運綠線與台北捷運三鶯線延伸交會此處,所以地皮似乎也炒起來了
建國路與新興路交叉口,舊名叫『打鐵店』,是因為以前那裡有一間專門打造農具的打鐵
店,故名之
茄苳,大概在目前永豐路茄苳國小附近,據說是那裡以前是一整片茄苳樹,故名之
新興路走到底,就是宵裡,是因為那裡早期是平埔族宵裡社所在地,故名宵裡
再過去一點的關路缺(新生路平東路龍南路交叉口)
有一說是以前的官路,後來『官』誤植為『關』
因地形關係命名『缺』,或說『缺』是『歇』(休息)之意
還有一些因灌溉所產生的地名,如溪墘(和強路那裡)、溪底等,太多了,以後再介紹
當然還有一些因特殊的建築物或地標產生的地名,例如大智路義勇街與介壽路交叉口,以
前是廣豐實業毛巾廠所在地
所以那裡附近我們以前都叫廣豐
大潤發,以前是萬客隆,再早一點那裡附近是力霸鋁門窗工廠所在地(就是現在力霸倫敦
城)
所以早期叫力霸,後來變萬客隆,現在都叫大潤發
興豐路的榮民之家也是,現在的陸光國宅(以前是眷村:陸光四村)也是,更寮腳過去的
僑愛等,都是如此
我po這篇是希望大家多瞭解自己所住的地方,在描述上也會比較明確一些
也請大家多多指教
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年紀已經是大叔級了(甚至已經可以做有些人的爸爸了)
來談一下老大湳人所認知的各個八德的舊地名
八德的由來,有一說是是因為清朝時開墾此地最早是八戶人家
座落於三元宮八德市公所附近,有八幢房子
所以當地人叫自己的地方就說『有八幢房子的地方』
台語就說『八塊厝』(ㄅㄟˋ ㄉㄟ˙ ㄘㄨ˙,詳細發音請問耆老)
或簡稱『八塊』
後來因國民政府建立地政,才改名(或說比較好聽?)的『八德』
(就像雞籠改叫基隆一樣)
所以八德與四維八德的八德原來是不算有關係的
也因此,老一輩的八德人講『八德』都講『八塊』,就是這個原因
我常問人怎麼講八德,若講『八塊』,就是原來的住民
若講『八德』(ㄅㄟˋ ㄉ一ㄜˊ),就是後來搬來的新住民
以老一輩的人來說,『八德』狹義的說,是指三元宮八德市公所附近那裡才叫八德
八德市據說目前其實有近一半(甚至不只)的人口集中在大湳
大湳,實際上是一個地方的統稱
因為桃園因為是台地,加上農田灌溉需要,所以有許多池塘
(說到這裡,桃園農田水利會可是有名的)
除了一些小池塘外(比如說,美華泰那裡以前就是池塘,大忠國小以前也是池塘)
這附近最大的池塘就是和平路的那個池塘了
所以人家叫這個地方是『那個大池塘的地方』,就是大湳(湳:池塘)
雖然現在有因地政需要劃分的大湳里,但實際上『大湳』就是這個地方的統稱
範圍大概北到義勇街大智路附近,東到東勇街,西到國際路,南到目前大潤發附近
大湳會發展其實是因為台四線(就是介壽路)的關係
正好是桃園(介壽路)-中壢(廣福路)-大溪-鶯歌(和平路轉桃鶯路)-八德的一個交會
處
吸引了許多人口,就算現在,也是八德市內人口增長最快的地方
所以,其實老一輩的人不太講自己住在八德,而說自己住在大湳
也都自稱是大湳的人(ㄉㄨㄚˇ ㄋㄢ ㄚ ㄟ ㄌㄤˊ),就是這個原因
大湳往桃園過去,大概在介壽路大明街交叉口--中華電信(以前叫無線電台,因為那是中
華電信的發射站)
就是所謂的『小大湳』,我所知道是因為靠近大湳了,但是又沒有一個適合的地名,所以
被稱為小大湳
若以大湳往大溪方向過去,在目前麥當勞附近,舊名叫『麻園』
原因是那裡以前是一片種麻的農地
再過去,大概在現在東和鋼鐵過去一點,加貝爾幼稚園旁邊,舊名叫松柏林(目前門牌好
像也是編松柏林)
再過去,就到了介壽路興豐路交叉口,舊名叫『更寮腳』
更寮,有一說是『守更寮』之意,因為開墾時期盜賊橫行,所以當地人都會有守更警戒,
因此守更的地方稱為守更寮
慢慢再轉變成更寮,『腳』,以台語來說有地方之意,所以更寮腳就是守更寮所守更之地
現在因為規劃桃園捷運綠線與台北捷運三鶯線延伸交會此處,所以地皮似乎也炒起來了
建國路與新興路交叉口,舊名叫『打鐵店』,是因為以前那裡有一間專門打造農具的打鐵
店,故名之
茄苳,大概在目前永豐路茄苳國小附近,據說是那裡以前是一整片茄苳樹,故名之
新興路走到底,就是宵裡,是因為那裡早期是平埔族宵裡社所在地,故名宵裡
再過去一點的關路缺(新生路平東路龍南路交叉口)
有一說是以前的官路,後來『官』誤植為『關』
因地形關係命名『缺』,或說『缺』是『歇』(休息)之意
還有一些因灌溉所產生的地名,如溪墘(和強路那裡)、溪底等,太多了,以後再介紹
當然還有一些因特殊的建築物或地標產生的地名,例如大智路義勇街與介壽路交叉口,以
前是廣豐實業毛巾廠所在地
所以那裡附近我們以前都叫廣豐
大潤發,以前是萬客隆,再早一點那裡附近是力霸鋁門窗工廠所在地(就是現在力霸倫敦
城)
所以早期叫力霸,後來變萬客隆,現在都叫大潤發
興豐路的榮民之家也是,現在的陸光國宅(以前是眷村:陸光四村)也是,更寮腳過去的
僑愛等,都是如此
我po這篇是希望大家多瞭解自己所住的地方,在描述上也會比較明確一些
也請大家多多指教
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