現在高雄捷運黃線的設計沒問題嗎? - 高雄

By Edwina
at 2017-06-11T12:14
at 2017-06-11T12:14
Table of Contents
※ 引述《AGODFATHER ()》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《Kepler452kB (earth2.0)》之銘言:
: : 剛剛在隔壁板
: : 看到了黃線的規畫圖
: : 才赫然發現
: : 衛武營 跟 前鎮高中都沒轉乘
: : 我整個無言了
: : 想說黃線蓋好了去草衙道 也會比較快
: : 現在南高雄的人搭橘線想轉到黃線 還找不到地方轉
: : 如果我要去草衙道 想轉黃線還要走個幾百公尺??
: : 那我幹嘛不橘線轉紅線就好??
: : 大家真的覺得這種設計沒問題嗎?
: https://www.facebook.com/KaohsiungHTROC/
: 你說的沒錯耶
: 而且不只那站
: 所謂的黃線與紅、橘、台鐵、輕軌各兩站的轉乘點
: 通通站外拉~~~~~~
: 十全路用歪的 轉乘也站外
: 高雄市政府讚啦~~~
看到這樣的軌道設計
真的很佩服台北市長柯P說的
"感覺你們不是想做事,只是想花錢"
黃線跟其他路線的交會站無法直接轉乘
還要出站步行60公尺去接駁
這樣的設計
凸顯當初規劃蓋捷運的市府
完全不以提升交通運輸做考量
而是突發奇想
哪裡有選票就蓋哪裡
一開始宣布的黃綠藍棕這些路線都是喊假的
市府也心裡清楚這些線根本蓋不出來
只是選舉的精神口號而已
有鄉民護航說
經費就是這樣
當然先把路網畫出來
紅橘線完工了
再慢慢把其他路線加進去
OK退一步想
假設市府真的只是因為沒錢
分階段爭取經費
分階段把路網建設起來
那你告訴我
為什麼新加入的線
跟原本的舊線無法共構?
因為預留空間不足?
為什麼預留空間不足?
就是當初蓋紅橘線時
前鎮高中、三多商圈、衛武營
這些站不認為會加蓋新路線
才沒有預留空間阿
不然當初紅線開通,美麗島站橘線封閉等完工是封假的嗎?
有人說日本地鐵也需要出站轉乘阿
觀光客、當地人也沒有抱怨
換成高捷就我們意見最多
拜託,他們同站要轉乘是因為路線興建與營運是不同公司欸
當地市政府蓋的,跟私人公司建造的,跟鐵路公司蓋的
當然可以沒有共構阿
就像捷運跟台鐵也不一定有共構阿
但是紅橘線跟黃線都是高雄市政府捷運局興建跟營運的餒
如果當初路網畫出來
很確定紅橘線某些站
在未來會跟其他新路線交會
根本沒有理由推託當初設計沒有預留空間
除非新路線就是原本設計規畫之外冒出來的
有人再護航說
當初規劃的路線都是20年前的事
有些產業或市鎮都會變化
當然有可能會產生現在這狀況阿
那這是市政府的問題
都市規劃牽扯到產業、人口、交通......等數十年的變化考量
需要專業的評估與科學數據模擬
才能下決定
當年出爐的捷運路網是經過專業評估後才確定
竟然可以因為這樣的理由,產生這樣的設計瑕疵
或是
當年的路網只是首長官員
預算經費花不完才天馬行空決定要蓋
不管哪種情況
說真的很難讓人接受
核心來講
今天市府沒有通盤考量高雄未來的定位與方向
或是下了重本研究評估,規劃了方向
卻可以因為一時的熱潮口號或選票金援
而分散資源,隨興建設
(興達港、愛河左岸、遊艇文化、產業園區、新創基地、輕軌)
建設完工卻發揮不了既定成效
這樣子金玉其外的高雄
還是幸福宜居城市!?
--
Sent from my Windows
--
: ※ 引述《Kepler452kB (earth2.0)》之銘言:
: : 剛剛在隔壁板
: : 看到了黃線的規畫圖
: : 才赫然發現
: : 衛武營 跟 前鎮高中都沒轉乘
: : 我整個無言了
: : 想說黃線蓋好了去草衙道 也會比較快
: : 現在南高雄的人搭橘線想轉到黃線 還找不到地方轉
: : 如果我要去草衙道 想轉黃線還要走個幾百公尺??
: : 那我幹嘛不橘線轉紅線就好??
: : 大家真的覺得這種設計沒問題嗎?
: https://www.facebook.com/KaohsiungHTROC/
: 你說的沒錯耶
: 而且不只那站
: 所謂的黃線與紅、橘、台鐵、輕軌各兩站的轉乘點
: 通通站外拉~~~~~~
: 十全路用歪的 轉乘也站外
: 高雄市政府讚啦~~~
看到這樣的軌道設計
真的很佩服台北市長柯P說的
"感覺你們不是想做事,只是想花錢"
黃線跟其他路線的交會站無法直接轉乘
還要出站步行60公尺去接駁
這樣的設計
凸顯當初規劃蓋捷運的市府
完全不以提升交通運輸做考量
而是突發奇想
哪裡有選票就蓋哪裡
一開始宣布的黃綠藍棕這些路線都是喊假的
市府也心裡清楚這些線根本蓋不出來
只是選舉的精神口號而已
有鄉民護航說
經費就是這樣
當然先把路網畫出來
紅橘線完工了
再慢慢把其他路線加進去
OK退一步想
假設市府真的只是因為沒錢
分階段爭取經費
分階段把路網建設起來
那你告訴我
為什麼新加入的線
跟原本的舊線無法共構?
因為預留空間不足?
為什麼預留空間不足?
就是當初蓋紅橘線時
前鎮高中、三多商圈、衛武營
這些站不認為會加蓋新路線
才沒有預留空間阿
不然當初紅線開通,美麗島站橘線封閉等完工是封假的嗎?
有人說日本地鐵也需要出站轉乘阿
觀光客、當地人也沒有抱怨
換成高捷就我們意見最多
拜託,他們同站要轉乘是因為路線興建與營運是不同公司欸
當地市政府蓋的,跟私人公司建造的,跟鐵路公司蓋的
當然可以沒有共構阿
就像捷運跟台鐵也不一定有共構阿
但是紅橘線跟黃線都是高雄市政府捷運局興建跟營運的餒
如果當初路網畫出來
很確定紅橘線某些站
在未來會跟其他新路線交會
根本沒有理由推託當初設計沒有預留空間
除非新路線就是原本設計規畫之外冒出來的
有人再護航說
當初規劃的路線都是20年前的事
有些產業或市鎮都會變化
當然有可能會產生現在這狀況阿
那這是市政府的問題
都市規劃牽扯到產業、人口、交通......等數十年的變化考量
需要專業的評估與科學數據模擬
才能下決定
當年出爐的捷運路網是經過專業評估後才確定
竟然可以因為這樣的理由,產生這樣的設計瑕疵
或是
當年的路網只是首長官員
預算經費花不完才天馬行空決定要蓋
不管哪種情況
說真的很難讓人接受
核心來講
今天市府沒有通盤考量高雄未來的定位與方向
或是下了重本研究評估,規劃了方向
卻可以因為一時的熱潮口號或選票金援
而分散資源,隨興建設
(興達港、愛河左岸、遊艇文化、產業園區、新創基地、輕軌)
建設完工卻發揮不了既定成效
這樣子金玉其外的高雄
還是幸福宜居城市!?
--
Sent from my Windows
--
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