爭取高鐵到屏東聯盟,交流分享會 - 屏東
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推文的討論已經亂到很難看的懂了,所以小弟簡單用回文的方式講一下自己的看法。
首先,我覺得大家不能被去看所謂的數據、評估報告這類的講法給引導去討論,因為
這類報告就只是個背書的概念,讓政府政策執行有依據,而不是出錯之後來究責的的
東西。(大概只有柯P會去追究當初報告的矛盾吧 = = 而且矛盾的點還是在中間的修
改權利金跟硬體比例等,而不是最初的效益評估等)
小弟也在工程顧問公司待過,接觸過也做過一些白皮書、服務建議書跟開發評估報告
書等。簡單說,只要政府單位是業主的,我們也不能用 "政府統計數據"、"學術研究
"跟 "自行實地做調查"之外的數據來做報告。
可以理解 ckTHU不斷要大家去看報告或討論數據,因為這些數據坦白講,根本無法質
疑,採用的國家數據跟計算式等,都是經過一定的研究驗證或被廣泛使用支持的資料
,一般人根本很難針對數據去提質疑(當然這一般人不包含做相關研究的人士),而支
持者當然會拿來作為"正向"的背書資料,而在沒有其他民意的支持下,這些報告資料
也當然的就是最有力的佐證了。(畢竟一般人很難自行去做這些統計數據)
而實際上呢?政府的統計數據雖然很可信,但是卻是一個僅供參考的數值。像是大家
的平均收入有 X萬、大陸來台人士旅遊每人每日消費XXXX元等一般,僅供參考。但跟
現實大家所擁有的、知道的,經常是相差甚遠,未必反映出實際狀況。
評估報告是一回事,實際需求與民意又是一回事。
如果該聯盟這麼想要蓋,除了數據之外,我想尚缺民意支持。要不要訴求縣府進行高
鐵興建意願公投?反正年底要選縣長,看能不能綁一綁一起投票。若是贊成的多,自
然有民意基礎,到時版上也不用討論蓋不蓋,變成討論怎麼蓋而已了。
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每次講到蓋高鐵,總是會說未來發展等等。但是講真的,小弟認為連2020總統是誰我
都很難猜了,要說誰能預測20年後屏東能發展到足以支持高鐵運量的程度,這也未免
太好高騖遠了。
研究可以,規劃可以,前期要進行都沒問題,但是屏東縣內,現階段有更需要解決的
問題,少子化、低薪、經濟發展、產業轉型、商圈老化、人口老化、勞資爭議等等,
有太多更迫在眉睫的問題,我想這些都不是一句蓋高鐵,20年後就能自動解決。
所以,身為屏東人,縣府首要是先針對現在存在的問題提出解決方案,開始執行了,
民眾看到效果了,此時再來討論更大的計畫與規劃吧。
國土規劃等級,自然有國家會做,屏東縣政府還是先解決自身問題吧,反正國土規劃
也一直有在進行。等到國家認為有必要,自然就會蓋了。說什麼現在有經費、總統是
屏東人,此時不爭取以後就沒有、不蓋白不蓋之類的話,那就更只是顯示現在其實沒
需要蓋而已。
不然現在吵高鐵、高捷蓋在六塊厝或台糖,都只是公有地特區化,後果自然就是被質
疑有背後利益而已。有什麼利益我不知道,我做過不少土地開發案,也不乏公有地,
但是我真的不知道背後有什麼利益,千萬不要來問我,也不要查我水表,感恩。
※ 引述《ckTHU (XD)》之銘言:
: 代po
: 各位屏東的鄉親日安:
: 爭取高鐵到屏東聯盟預計在 1/7 週日下午 1 點
: 在屏東火車站的摩斯漢堡有個微型交流分享會
: 歡迎關注高鐵議題的屏東人參與,讓屏東更好。
: 時間:1/7 週日下午 1 點
: 地點:屏東火車站前摩斯漢堡
: 聯繫人:
: 爭取高鐵到屏東聯盟 蘇先生、林先生(當天掛布條處)
: https://www.facebook.com/PingtungJoinsTHSR/
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