殊途同歸的點餐方法省錢會惹怒朋友? - 省錢

By Kyle
at 2011-11-26T18:11
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噓 Graphene:賺了20元 還說沒有? 最看不起你這種人 11/26 13:33
剛剛重新看了原po的文章一次,我要為我上面的推文道歉
我想大部分的人(包括我在內),似乎都沒弄清楚原po的論點,幫忙整理一下 :p
===============================我是事件分隔線=================================
│回數票│一般票
───┼───┼───
漲價前│ 100 │ 130
───┼───┼───
漲價後│ 120 │ 150
有天原po得知朋友要去某地
他基於「好心(?)」,因此「主動」說自己有便宜的回數票
但是現在回數票漲成120元了
而他手上的回數票票價是舊款的100元 (然後當時規定不用補差價)
如果用100元賣朋友,表面看來很公平,因為是原價賣出
但如果以後原po手上的票用完了,就必須購買漲價的新版回數票 (120元)
等於多花20元彌補之前以100元賣出的票
因此想把手上100元的舊制回數票以120元賣給朋友
讓朋友不需要買比較貴的一般票(150元),而自己也沒有虧到,達成雙贏的局面
沒想到朋友不領情,反批他賣黃牛票、不夠朋友,最後跑去買了兩張一般票
===============================我是事件分隔線=================================
其實賣黃牛票是一種令人討厭的行為,跟朋友買還要被削一筆感覺真差 -_-
但是原po這行為只是保障自己不虧錢
至於有沒有違法?
根據社會秩序維護法第64條第2款:
有左列各款行為之一者,處三日以下拘留或新臺幣一萬八千元以下罰鍰:
二、非供自用,購買運輸、遊樂票券而轉售圖利者。
也就是說如果購買車票或遊樂場所的票再轉售圖利 (價錢比購入價高)
警察查到是可以開罰單的,但沒有刑責~
而鐵路法第65條:購買車票加價出售圖利者,處拘役、或科或併科一千元以下罰金。
所以購買台鐵車票後發現用不到,是可以轉賣,但不能抬高售價喔,不然有刑責的勒!
但客運不適用鐵路法,若以社會秩序維護法鬧上法院
需視法官依實際情形判定 (不過我猜可能也是微罪不舉收場)
但因這點小事上法院,不但浪費司法資源,我看之後連朋友也當不成了吧!
撇開法律層面不論,其實世上哪個交易是公平的?
每天早上去路口買個早餐40塊,店家成本絕對低於這個數字 (不然他賺屁?)
吃完早餐去買報紙15元,每份報紙的成本一定低於15元 (光刊登的廣告收入就超多了)
打開電腦看股票,HTC以1000元買進,誰希望它跌到900元再賣出?
這本來就是一個低買高賣的世界,板友指責原po低買高賣實在沒什麼道理
甚至說如果是不認識的人,才可以賣120(或更貴)的論點更是奇怪
如果說低買高賣是錯的、不道德的,那票不管是不是賣給朋友
對所有人都應該等同視之 (全部賣100或全部賣120)
這個版是省錢版,我省錢是為了「惜物」,即使到了圖書館
對廁所的衛生紙、水龍頭流出的水都一樣很珍惜的使用
不會因為這些東西我不必花錢就恣意浪費
原po唯一讓我覺得不太妥當的點是:
你票賣人家時票卷上應該有印100元的數字,就算你理由正當 (不想虧錢+朋友有便宜到)
但在「情」字上總是給人斤斤計較的負面觀感,白話文就是「奇檬子」不好啦~
我建議你不想虧錢的話,一開始就不要把票拿出來賣了
或是真要這麼做就不能讓朋友知道真正的價錢
人性很奇怪,有時候知道真相比被蒙在鼓裡還痛苦 囧>
不過你後來舉的兄弟買賣房子的例子,我覺得還蠻符合人性醜陋面的
人真的是一種很奇妙的動物,被廠商或不認識的人多賺沒感覺
可是要是錢進了認識的朋友口袋絕對是記恨一輩子
總之不管認不認識,價錢是不是低於市價,大家就是不想被貴到
以下轉貼幾篇之前合購板紛爭的文章給各位開開眼界 XD
#1EolGbd0 (Gossiping)
作者 mandy740512 (在天橋下的天使) 看板 Gossiping
標題 Re: [新聞] PTT開合購團 清大碩士污運費10萬元
時間 Tue Nov 22 09:00:17 2011
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看到這篇的推文
我只能說我很火大
什麼叫做給人家賺一點
好可能大家還不太懂合購的定義
假設現在推文的人想要iphone4
售價假設是兩萬五
那剛好有個人也想買iphone4 但他有能力談到每台兩萬二(這些都是假設的數字
並不代表真實情況)
她就去問其他版或是其他網路討論區有沒有人要一起買iphone4
要一起買iphone4的話就是先匯款給她她可能再面交或郵寄給網友之類的
當然啦男士們就說給人家賺一點沒關係嘛齁
現在假設我們給她賺一千元好了
所以售價+男士們所說的給人家轉點錢應該的
等到哪天你無意中發現其實主購拿的是兩萬元的價錢
卻給你謊報二萬二加一千元給人家的費用
人家足足收你差價兩千加上一千元的雜費
一次就賺了三千元呢
更不要說搞不好人家偷偷笑你傻之類的
倘若這樣男士們還是無所謂給人家賺三千元(相當於一兩個禮拜的費用)
那到時候萬一店家或業務員高賣低價時就不要該
是大家說要給人家賺點費用的對吧
我告訴各位現在這些營利的主購還用
這些風涼話去刺激那些受害者
搞不好以後就詐騙到你身上(不要跟我說不可能
台語俗語不是有一句話叫做細漢偷挽匏,大漢偷牽牛)
現在年紀輕輕就敢詐騙其他網友
我不相信以後她們不會再騙人
講風涼話的人等著看我等著你們被她們詐騙後
到時候上來發文的話我一定第一個噓你
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