機捷明年3月通車恐生變 交部推說桃捷挑剔 - 林口

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作者: chun0303 (chun) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 機捷明年3月通車恐生變 交部推說桃捷挑剔
時間: Fri Dec 25 09:07:13 2015
自由時報
機捷明年3月通車恐生變 交部推說桃捷挑剔
〔記者李欣芳、黃立翔/綜合報導〕桃園機場捷運不只年底通車的承諾跳票,就連以明年
三月通車為目標恐怕也難達陣。交通部長陳建宇昨在行政院院會後表示,由於機捷系統測
試穩定度需要一點時間處理,「儘可能克服能否在明年三月底通車,如果不能在三月底,
也會儘早讓大家知道」。
系統整合測試演練 估還要3個月
高鐵局官員透露,昨天系統整合測試,模擬演練四十六項還有十三項,預估一月中進入七
天連續測試,接著還有初勘與履勘,依北捷經驗至少需要花三個月,有可能延到五月中到
六月通車。
機場捷運通車時程一變再變,交通部高鐵局和桃園市政府達成共識,以明年三月底通車為
目標,但當時說機率僅五成,果然通車承諾極可能再度跳票,讓大台北及桃園地區的民眾
大失所望。
陳建宇表示,機場捷運要通車還有系統整合測試、營運前運轉測試以及模擬演練要處理,
最大的問題在系統整合過程原承包商與下游包商有重大合約的爭議,交通部要求穩定度的
標準要達九十九%,包括發車的班次、幾分到達、多久一間距,合約標準是九十七.五%
,這需要一點時間處理。
陳建宇說,以往捷運建設後交給營運單位,都是地方政府內部移交,但桃園機場捷運是首
次由中央建設後,移交桃園市政府營運,在系統整合測試和營運前運轉測試階段,就讓桃
園市政府加入,這麼做有優點,但也產生比較大衝突。
8月迄今10次機電設備異常事故
高鐵局則坦言,整合測試仍未達標,甚至曾晚點一小時四十五分才到站,測試全不及格;
據了解,機捷八月至今就出現十次機電設備異常事故,連監委巡察時都一度「當機」。
交通部將責任歸咎於包商合約爭議,並暗指桃捷公司挑剔且要求太多;桃捷公司昨大力反
擊「整合測試未過才是主因」,準點率穩定度曾低到四成多,「不要拿民眾安全開玩笑」
。
「別拿安全開玩笑」桃捷反擊交長
桃捷公司董事長何煖軒回擊,模擬演練雖不在合約內,卻是兩年前就由交通部核定,如今
整合測試無法達標,要怪還未進行的模擬演練?以目前整合測試成績不佳來看,「沒有模
擬演練還得了」。
桃捷更用數字說話,機捷號誌系統不穩定,致使系統整合測試(IST)至今未能通過九十
七.五%之「準點率驗證」,距離交通部履勘要點要求須「連續七天可靠度達九十九%」
的標準更遙遠。另外,IST後的營運前轉運測試(PRSR)至少得三個月,模擬演練再三
個月,初履勘兩個月,但至今IST仍未完成驗證,更遑論後面的模擬演練。
http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/focus/paper/943578
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作者: chun0303 (chun) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 機捷明年3月通車恐生變 交部推說桃捷挑剔
時間: Fri Dec 25 09:07:13 2015
自由時報
機捷明年3月通車恐生變 交部推說桃捷挑剔
〔記者李欣芳、黃立翔/綜合報導〕桃園機場捷運不只年底通車的承諾跳票,就連以明年
三月通車為目標恐怕也難達陣。交通部長陳建宇昨在行政院院會後表示,由於機捷系統測
試穩定度需要一點時間處理,「儘可能克服能否在明年三月底通車,如果不能在三月底,
也會儘早讓大家知道」。
系統整合測試演練 估還要3個月
高鐵局官員透露,昨天系統整合測試,模擬演練四十六項還有十三項,預估一月中進入七
天連續測試,接著還有初勘與履勘,依北捷經驗至少需要花三個月,有可能延到五月中到
六月通車。
機場捷運通車時程一變再變,交通部高鐵局和桃園市政府達成共識,以明年三月底通車為
目標,但當時說機率僅五成,果然通車承諾極可能再度跳票,讓大台北及桃園地區的民眾
大失所望。
陳建宇表示,機場捷運要通車還有系統整合測試、營運前運轉測試以及模擬演練要處理,
最大的問題在系統整合過程原承包商與下游包商有重大合約的爭議,交通部要求穩定度的
標準要達九十九%,包括發車的班次、幾分到達、多久一間距,合約標準是九十七.五%
,這需要一點時間處理。
陳建宇說,以往捷運建設後交給營運單位,都是地方政府內部移交,但桃園機場捷運是首
次由中央建設後,移交桃園市政府營運,在系統整合測試和營運前運轉測試階段,就讓桃
園市政府加入,這麼做有優點,但也產生比較大衝突。
8月迄今10次機電設備異常事故
高鐵局則坦言,整合測試仍未達標,甚至曾晚點一小時四十五分才到站,測試全不及格;
據了解,機捷八月至今就出現十次機電設備異常事故,連監委巡察時都一度「當機」。
交通部將責任歸咎於包商合約爭議,並暗指桃捷公司挑剔且要求太多;桃捷公司昨大力反
擊「整合測試未過才是主因」,準點率穩定度曾低到四成多,「不要拿民眾安全開玩笑」
。
「別拿安全開玩笑」桃捷反擊交長
桃捷公司董事長何煖軒回擊,模擬演練雖不在合約內,卻是兩年前就由交通部核定,如今
整合測試無法達標,要怪還未進行的模擬演練?以目前整合測試成績不佳來看,「沒有模
擬演練還得了」。
桃捷更用數字說話,機捷號誌系統不穩定,致使系統整合測試(IST)至今未能通過九十
七.五%之「準點率驗證」,距離交通部履勘要點要求須「連續七天可靠度達九十九%」
的標準更遙遠。另外,IST後的營運前轉運測試(PRSR)至少得三個月,模擬演練再三
個月,初履勘兩個月,但至今IST仍未完成驗證,更遑論後面的模擬演練。
http://news.ltn.com.tw/news/focus/paper/943578
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