板主產生的程序 - 新店

By Erin
at 2013-09-11T11:03
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這是組規
<新增板主>
1.若該板已有板主,需現任板主於小組事務板提出申請,並經所有板主同意。
2.若該板無板主,可由小組長辦理遴選作業,或至LifeNewboard板提出連署。
1>連署時間發起後滿三天方得於小組事務板提出申請。
2>提出申請後,小組長可視情況延長連署時間,至多十四天。(連署期滿)
3>連署理由請確實填寫,過於簡略者小組長得判定為無效連署。
4>基本連署門檻之定義為有效支持票25以上,
且有效支持票數高出有效反對票數的1/2以上。
3.新增之板主須符合登入300且發表200之限制。
換言之 板主資格只要符合下面
1.只要經前板主去辦理申請
2.該員資格符合登入300且發表200之限制。
都是合法的。
其實更多板是不經選舉產生也無不法
(要面對的是理(民意),不是法(站規/組規)
站方本身就對板主產生程序沒有規範
所以現在在那裏強調一個站方/板方沒有明文規定過的程序
我不知道該怎麼遵循?
當初我欲直接交接給martica是因為前次選舉也無人參選及難產
所以想乾脆直接交給他
後來有其他人表示也想選<=MR.soso
所以補發公告參選時間給大家考慮是否參加
畢竟多一點人參選對大家是多一些選擇
這些從無到有本來就從來都是制度外的東西
(板上之前選舉制度也是歷任板主自行處理)
就像參選資格,各政見格式本板也無規範
(組務不管這些,本板無舊規)
所以一直提的報名程序瑕疵
到底是以什麼標準在檢視?
站規/組規?<=沒規定程序
前板主們?<=沒人規定過程序
還是誰的標準嗎?
=============以上是關於法的解釋==============
這裡要講到"理"
出來道歉,是為了平息紛爭(有人說這是板主該做的我虛心受教)
如果4位候選人中有人要針對這點抗議
我向他道歉
(不好意思 我要再說一次 這個抱歉跟非候選人無關)
不過要扯到因為這個公告上時間問題
會導致以後選舉恩怨什麼的
那就太遙遠了
當初第一次選舉若沒發生規則漏洞
後面就不會產生恩怨嗎?
事實上是一定先心裡不服氣 <=因
才去發現對方漏洞的是吧? <=果
這是因果的順序
給大家看個過去所謂的戰板主事件
http://www.ptt.cc/man/HsinTien/DBE5/D933/index.html
當初在吵要新增板主的議題
現在來看根本相當無聊
因為就如現在有候選人提議只要一位板主一模一樣的性質
但是現在沒人有意見<=因為現在有其他注目焦點
所以大家對幾位板主真的很在乎,很重要嗎?
事實上只是時機問題而已
很多人應該都知道現在板上吵不完的真正原因
不就是因為誰也不服誰
你的標準 ≠我的標準
(就像blurry你不服氣我處理的選舉程序對吧?)
而且就算今天程序沒爭議還是有人可以抗議理念上不服氣
所以搞到有人喊要用公投來讓反對者無話可說
(跟現實生活一樣?)
但是這次無話可說
下次還是可以有其他意見不同
然後繼續公投解決其他項爭議
所謂任期制其實只是治標解決辦法之一
看人家嫩覺得自己比較高明的上來
試試看照自己的標準來做事
然後被其他不服自己的戰
下台後換另一個人來試試看身手
其他覺得自己比較厲害的繼續炮
就如前a板主說的#1Dwn_fqW (HsinTien)
事實上要治本的方法除非
1.一個筆戰能力+戰意充足的
不停應戰 戰贏大家
(我知道濕濕你會說就是你對吧?
不過你設的3個月停損點也相當聰明
因為就算搞不定時間到走人也無損威望XD)
2.手腕厲害讓過去有舊怨那些人願意不反他
(王金平?)
有其中之一出現才可能解決
其實上面的治本方法我想友聰明如很多板友不可能不知道
真的有心要解決為新店好應該是出來選板主來擺平大家
不過這是最累也是最危險的一條路
(弄不好會自己沾一身腥)
如果沒把握所以也不願意
既然不願意治本又何苦去挑起事端?
在那戰人然後糾結於文字本身
並不會使事情解決
我想關於候選人資格說明就到此為止
--
<新增板主>
1.若該板已有板主,需現任板主於小組事務板提出申請,並經所有板主同意。
2.若該板無板主,可由小組長辦理遴選作業,或至LifeNewboard板提出連署。
1>連署時間發起後滿三天方得於小組事務板提出申請。
2>提出申請後,小組長可視情況延長連署時間,至多十四天。(連署期滿)
3>連署理由請確實填寫,過於簡略者小組長得判定為無效連署。
4>基本連署門檻之定義為有效支持票25以上,
且有效支持票數高出有效反對票數的1/2以上。
3.新增之板主須符合登入300且發表200之限制。
換言之 板主資格只要符合下面
1.只要經前板主去辦理申請
2.該員資格符合登入300且發表200之限制。
都是合法的。
其實更多板是不經選舉產生也無不法
(要面對的是理(民意),不是法(站規/組規)
站方本身就對板主產生程序沒有規範
所以現在在那裏強調一個站方/板方沒有明文規定過的程序
我不知道該怎麼遵循?
當初我欲直接交接給martica是因為前次選舉也無人參選及難產
所以想乾脆直接交給他
後來有其他人表示也想選<=MR.soso
所以補發公告參選時間給大家考慮是否參加
畢竟多一點人參選對大家是多一些選擇
這些從無到有本來就從來都是制度外的東西
(板上之前選舉制度也是歷任板主自行處理)
就像參選資格,各政見格式本板也無規範
(組務不管這些,本板無舊規)
所以一直提的報名程序瑕疵
到底是以什麼標準在檢視?
站規/組規?<=沒規定程序
前板主們?<=沒人規定過程序
還是誰的標準嗎?
=============以上是關於法的解釋==============
這裡要講到"理"
出來道歉,是為了平息紛爭(有人說這是板主該做的我虛心受教)
如果4位候選人中有人要針對這點抗議
我向他道歉
(不好意思 我要再說一次 這個抱歉跟非候選人無關)
不過要扯到因為這個公告上時間問題
會導致以後選舉恩怨什麼的
那就太遙遠了
當初第一次選舉若沒發生規則漏洞
後面就不會產生恩怨嗎?
事實上是一定先心裡不服氣 <=因
才去發現對方漏洞的是吧? <=果
這是因果的順序
給大家看個過去所謂的戰板主事件
http://www.ptt.cc/man/HsinTien/DBE5/D933/index.html
當初在吵要新增板主的議題
現在來看根本相當無聊
因為就如現在有候選人提議只要一位板主一模一樣的性質
但是現在沒人有意見<=因為現在有其他注目焦點
所以大家對幾位板主真的很在乎,很重要嗎?
事實上只是時機問題而已
很多人應該都知道現在板上吵不完的真正原因
不就是因為誰也不服誰
你的標準 ≠我的標準
(就像blurry你不服氣我處理的選舉程序對吧?)
而且就算今天程序沒爭議還是有人可以抗議理念上不服氣
所以搞到有人喊要用公投來讓反對者無話可說
(跟現實生活一樣?)
但是這次無話可說
下次還是可以有其他意見不同
然後繼續公投解決其他項爭議
所謂任期制其實只是治標解決辦法之一
看人家嫩覺得自己比較高明的上來
試試看照自己的標準來做事
然後被其他不服自己的戰
下台後換另一個人來試試看身手
其他覺得自己比較厲害的繼續炮
就如前a板主說的#1Dwn_fqW (HsinTien)
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事實上要治本的方法除非
1.一個筆戰能力+戰意充足的
不停應戰 戰贏大家
(我知道濕濕你會說就是你對吧?
不過你設的3個月停損點也相當聰明
因為就算搞不定時間到走人也無損威望XD)
2.手腕厲害讓過去有舊怨那些人願意不反他
(王金平?)
有其中之一出現才可能解決
其實上面的治本方法我想友聰明如很多板友不可能不知道
真的有心要解決為新店好應該是出來選板主來擺平大家
不過這是最累也是最危險的一條路
(弄不好會自己沾一身腥)
如果沒把握所以也不願意
既然不願意治本又何苦去挑起事端?
在那戰人然後糾結於文字本身
並不會使事情解決
我想關於候選人資格說明就到此為止
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at 2013-09-11T09:15
新店家樂福_黑色皮夾

By Olivia
at 2013-09-11T06:54
at 2013-09-11T06:54
想提議一個投票

By Carol
at 2013-09-11T01:03
at 2013-09-11T01:03
翡翠水庫附近租的到套房嗎?

By Annie
at 2013-09-11T00:07
at 2013-09-11T00:07
身為PTT菜鳥的挫折...

By Mason
at 2013-09-10T23:56
at 2013-09-10T23:56