想問輕軌問題在哪 - 基隆
By Harry
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at 2019-11-15T12:19
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只要提到輕軌都吵得沸沸揚揚
我就去稍微了解一下這個東西
跟大家在吵什麼
研究完覺得 輕軌的規劃沒問題啊?
綜合看大多數臉書也好ptt也罷
反對的網民留言通常如下
1.為什麼不直接增設台鐵車廂就好
我的理解:
南港站之後就是地下化,地下化就是雙軌,車廂增設再多,啊還不是卡在南港,加上台鐵
在快慢車上就是有待避問題,而且多一套不同運輸的系統,避免台鐵系統掛掉時,多一個
選擇?
2.為什麼錢不拿來增加高速公路的客運班次
我的理解:
我同意增開各種線路跟班次,但高速公路長跑公路通勤的就知道,就是只要一點點事故或
其他因素就會塞車,時間上很難抓,穩定性就是輸鐵道運輸,車流本身已經很大,增開班
次,並不能解決通勤問題啊?
3.淡水輕軌慢的要命要這個輕軌幹嘛
我的理解:
看昌哥的規劃,基隆輕軌要採用的是Tram-Train的輕軌系統,詳細跟淡水輕軌差在哪請自
行爬文,我查到的資料是淡水輕軌速度在時速50-70公里,tram-train時速是70-100公里
,就不是同一種東西,實際跑起來怎樣根本不知道,搭了淡水輕軌就以為是一樣的東西,
而且這種列車就是應用在可以跑傳統鐵路,剛好第三軌是既有的,只要鋪設第四軌就可以
,大大增加通車日
4.捷運派,我就是要捷運
我的理解:
看柯文哲的態度也知道,汐止民生線遙遙無期,到底做不做得成到現在都是未知數,更別
提還要等這條做完,再來評估延伸我們基隆這件事,而且這個跨級台北新北基隆跟各部會
單位,這件事情就算做得成,你覺得要多久?15年?20年?現在在等的基隆人都搬走?還
是等到都退休了根本不用通勤了?還是跟獵人一樣要回去天堂了孫子在拜拜跟我說基隆有
捷運了QQ,不就是想趕快解決眼下通勤問題?
5.應該要解決的輸基隆工作機會的問題
我的理解:
我這段都懶得打了,衛星城市這確實是基隆很近台北的優缺,地也不夠讓企業發展,很多
都北漂的南部人都來台北找工作了,更何況想讓基隆人都在基隆工作?我本身金融業,哪
一個金融金控公司會不設在台北設在基隆,包括最近吵的潛艦園區就算在基隆增加多少工
作機會,也還是跟我無關啊,行業別跨這麼大,我還是只能去台北上班啊
6.輕軌只到南港還要轉乘捷運到台北車站多此一舉
我的理解:
不是所有人通勤都要到台北車站啊,到南港展覽館可以轉乘板南線跟文湖線,在台北信義
區以東,跟內湖方向工作的人,不是會有比較方便嗎?
承認的缺點:
台鐵原本可以一班火車搭去台北站,好像會被砍必須基隆先輕軌搭到七堵還八堵轉臺鐵,
在一路搭到台北,但這就跟第6一樣,有被影響的人,也有得利的人
心得:其實就是一個從小在基隆市區長大的小孩,家裡老人是外省人,所以不用說清一色
藍,但長大過程看著藍色執政的停滯,真心希望基隆別在被外縣市看不起,永遠一講房市
被戰被嫌的基隆,啊希望這篇理性討論交流,輕軌還有哪些問題,我沒想到的,都可以提
出,但請好好的說不想戰,會在這版的大家都是希望家鄉好吧?
--
我就去稍微了解一下這個東西
跟大家在吵什麼
研究完覺得 輕軌的規劃沒問題啊?
綜合看大多數臉書也好ptt也罷
反對的網民留言通常如下
1.為什麼不直接增設台鐵車廂就好
我的理解:
南港站之後就是地下化,地下化就是雙軌,車廂增設再多,啊還不是卡在南港,加上台鐵
在快慢車上就是有待避問題,而且多一套不同運輸的系統,避免台鐵系統掛掉時,多一個
選擇?
2.為什麼錢不拿來增加高速公路的客運班次
我的理解:
我同意增開各種線路跟班次,但高速公路長跑公路通勤的就知道,就是只要一點點事故或
其他因素就會塞車,時間上很難抓,穩定性就是輸鐵道運輸,車流本身已經很大,增開班
次,並不能解決通勤問題啊?
3.淡水輕軌慢的要命要這個輕軌幹嘛
我的理解:
看昌哥的規劃,基隆輕軌要採用的是Tram-Train的輕軌系統,詳細跟淡水輕軌差在哪請自
行爬文,我查到的資料是淡水輕軌速度在時速50-70公里,tram-train時速是70-100公里
,就不是同一種東西,實際跑起來怎樣根本不知道,搭了淡水輕軌就以為是一樣的東西,
而且這種列車就是應用在可以跑傳統鐵路,剛好第三軌是既有的,只要鋪設第四軌就可以
,大大增加通車日
4.捷運派,我就是要捷運
我的理解:
看柯文哲的態度也知道,汐止民生線遙遙無期,到底做不做得成到現在都是未知數,更別
提還要等這條做完,再來評估延伸我們基隆這件事,而且這個跨級台北新北基隆跟各部會
單位,這件事情就算做得成,你覺得要多久?15年?20年?現在在等的基隆人都搬走?還
是等到都退休了根本不用通勤了?還是跟獵人一樣要回去天堂了孫子在拜拜跟我說基隆有
捷運了QQ,不就是想趕快解決眼下通勤問題?
5.應該要解決的輸基隆工作機會的問題
我的理解:
我這段都懶得打了,衛星城市這確實是基隆很近台北的優缺,地也不夠讓企業發展,很多
都北漂的南部人都來台北找工作了,更何況想讓基隆人都在基隆工作?我本身金融業,哪
一個金融金控公司會不設在台北設在基隆,包括最近吵的潛艦園區就算在基隆增加多少工
作機會,也還是跟我無關啊,行業別跨這麼大,我還是只能去台北上班啊
6.輕軌只到南港還要轉乘捷運到台北車站多此一舉
我的理解:
不是所有人通勤都要到台北車站啊,到南港展覽館可以轉乘板南線跟文湖線,在台北信義
區以東,跟內湖方向工作的人,不是會有比較方便嗎?
承認的缺點:
台鐵原本可以一班火車搭去台北站,好像會被砍必須基隆先輕軌搭到七堵還八堵轉臺鐵,
在一路搭到台北,但這就跟第6一樣,有被影響的人,也有得利的人
心得:其實就是一個從小在基隆市區長大的小孩,家裡老人是外省人,所以不用說清一色
藍,但長大過程看著藍色執政的停滯,真心希望基隆別在被外縣市看不起,永遠一講房市
被戰被嫌的基隆,啊希望這篇理性討論交流,輕軌還有哪些問題,我沒想到的,都可以提
出,但請好好的說不想戰,會在這版的大家都是希望家鄉好吧?
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