大家覺得耶誕城是個怎樣的存在呢 - 板橋

By Christine
at 2016-11-23T18:11
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※ 引述《vivi830505 (severus)》之銘言:
先說結論:我覺得辦任何大活動都不可能要求,只有利,沒有弊。
原PO的看法可能不能只看弊的一面,可能要看的更全面一點。
: 大家覺得耶誕城是個怎樣的存在呢
: 塞車城撒旦城還是一個充滿歡樂的地方呢
: 《節錄自2015年的今週刊》
: 新北市政府是這樣說的
: 投入2400萬元預算
: 估計帶來32億的經濟效益
: 等於換來132倍的商機
: 試問附近都是百貨公司有外地遊客會到其他地方較遠的地方消費嗎
這個部分,我覺得原PO對外地遊客的「想像」略嫌不夠。
舉個例子:以我之前去桃園看花燈、看lamigirl也未必只會待附近,反而會「趁機」去桃園其他地方
吃吃東西。
這道理不難想像啦,外地遊客也都不是原始人,難得跑一趟板橋,順便去南雅夜市吃個小
吃也是合情合理吧?
大家時間精力都有限,一個信義區的上班族都跑來板橋了,未必會想繼續吃百貨公司吧?
: 另2400萬預算應該只是觀旅局的
: 不包含警察及義交的加班費
: 以及因耶誕城交通堵塞的外部成本
: 再者10%左右的觀旅局經費來自於罰款收入
: 為何抨擊警察搶錢的板橋人對於耶誕城的存在卻是喜滋滋的
: FB社團裡為什麼喜歡政府舉債的人
: 比那些真的關心下一代負債的還大聲
這邊我也覺得很矛盾,一方面主張耶誕節導致「人太多」、一方面又說耶誕節「會舉債」。
這裡我只從常識判斷,一個地方因為大型活動增加很多人來,不可能不消費,不管是百貨業還是商家都會因此增加收益,那麼相對也要繳更多稅。
甚至假設久而久之後,耶誕城繼續成為常態,成就板橋的繁榮,也會吸引更多商家進來。
那麼耶誕城也未必只是一直舉債而沒有收益吧?
至於你說警察搶錢,我覺得因人而異啦,我自己違規就乖乖繳費、少開車嘍。
: 喜歡耶誕城是因為這是板橋甚至是新北唯一可看見的政績嗎?
: 還是不是在你家附近沒有鄰避的問題呢?
是不是唯一政績不知道,但我真心覺得討論一個活動是否舉辦,不能只考慮鄰避。
也要看城市整體嘍,像我能帶一些朋友(或者妹)耶誕節找藉口走走也不錯吧!
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先說結論:我覺得辦任何大活動都不可能要求,只有利,沒有弊。
原PO的看法可能不能只看弊的一面,可能要看的更全面一點。
: 大家覺得耶誕城是個怎樣的存在呢
: 塞車城撒旦城還是一個充滿歡樂的地方呢
: 《節錄自2015年的今週刊》
: 新北市政府是這樣說的
: 投入2400萬元預算
: 估計帶來32億的經濟效益
: 等於換來132倍的商機
: 試問附近都是百貨公司有外地遊客會到其他地方較遠的地方消費嗎
這個部分,我覺得原PO對外地遊客的「想像」略嫌不夠。
舉個例子:以我之前去桃園看花燈、看lamigirl也未必只會待附近,反而會「趁機」去桃園其他地方
吃吃東西。
這道理不難想像啦,外地遊客也都不是原始人,難得跑一趟板橋,順便去南雅夜市吃個小
吃也是合情合理吧?
大家時間精力都有限,一個信義區的上班族都跑來板橋了,未必會想繼續吃百貨公司吧?
: 另2400萬預算應該只是觀旅局的
: 不包含警察及義交的加班費
: 以及因耶誕城交通堵塞的外部成本
: 再者10%左右的觀旅局經費來自於罰款收入
: 為何抨擊警察搶錢的板橋人對於耶誕城的存在卻是喜滋滋的
: FB社團裡為什麼喜歡政府舉債的人
: 比那些真的關心下一代負債的還大聲
這邊我也覺得很矛盾,一方面主張耶誕節導致「人太多」、一方面又說耶誕節「會舉債」。
這裡我只從常識判斷,一個地方因為大型活動增加很多人來,不可能不消費,不管是百貨業還是商家都會因此增加收益,那麼相對也要繳更多稅。
甚至假設久而久之後,耶誕城繼續成為常態,成就板橋的繁榮,也會吸引更多商家進來。
那麼耶誕城也未必只是一直舉債而沒有收益吧?
至於你說警察搶錢,我覺得因人而異啦,我自己違規就乖乖繳費、少開車嘍。
: 喜歡耶誕城是因為這是板橋甚至是新北唯一可看見的政績嗎?
: 還是不是在你家附近沒有鄰避的問題呢?
是不是唯一政績不知道,但我真心覺得討論一個活動是否舉辦,不能只考慮鄰避。
也要看城市整體嘍,像我能帶一些朋友(或者妹)耶誕節找藉口走走也不錯吧!
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