埔心的機車行 - 桃園中壢
By Quanna
at 2013-09-07T22:26
at 2013-09-07T22:26
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為了版面,前文恕刪,針對推文直接回應
這家應該是沒有牌定標價或者貼著不二價的牌子
維修買賣以詢價溝通對吧(生鮮賣場VS傳統市場)
你所貼的三次價格,有沒有發現一個規律? 『亂』的越來越低
第一次~前450,後400
第二次~前350,後350
第三次~前300,後350
試問你今天在菜市場看到高麗菜賣40/一斤,你詢價購買後三斤
隔壁來了一位阿婆,經過多次詢問,35/一斤,買三斤算100
所以以您的觀點,這個菜販也是又黑又亂喊價
詢價本來就是提供雙方磋商價格的機會
你詢問多次,對方也降價,只是最終價格還是無法接受
就這三次詢問,推得這點沒錯吧
無法接受不同人商議出不同價格,為何不去有標定牌價的車行作維修呢?
零件售價、工錢、維修單據、甚至維修流程都一目了然
且又假設今天您跟對方拿到更優惠的價錢,又當如何?
因為你比較會講價,所以別人買貴就要多付一點錢嗎?
正常來說......是的,講價各憑本事,因為店內無定價,雙方講定為準
您講這句不是在開玩笑嗎?
開頭就說被騙得很慘,在A店換電瓶,您的內心OS也表示您曾經換過也瞭解價碼
試問以您對安裝電瓶的瞭解,是還需要自我研究自我整修什麼?
沒換過不瞭解的人,會說自己被騙得很慘嗎? 被宰都不自知才對吧
看了這樣的文章,推薦這個人自己動手有何不對?
如果您不想動手,想以詢價找到您心目中所求,那當然是另當別論
以上只針對您的問題,每個人?要是一個完全不懂的人問 建議就不會如此了
1.到材料行買所需型號的電瓶,灌好水,跟材料行借個起子拆裝新舊電瓶
2.買斤綠豆泡水後丟進無光容器定時換水,等他發芽
(豆芽應該算是常見蔬菜內最速成的了)
兩者所需時間,你要不要比較一下?
我一直講都是『簡單的』自己來,一個看過換過的人 自己換電瓶會比種菜難?
以上推文包括我本人,哪位質疑您騙人了?
我推文只指出同一家店有人一家買了6台且服務到現在都很滿意
但是您詢問後得到『換電瓶要連傳動一起整理』的回應
如果此回應屬實,這證明店家確實不老實
但並非每個人在此店都遭到如此惡劣的服務
這預設立場會不會太多了點?
那請問一個『擺明要你花錢』的店家,『明知開關噴一噴就好』
還會幫你噴了之後,才騙你說壞了要換新?
跳過噴劑這步驟,直接換掉收錢不是對店家更有利嗎???
他幫你噴了,現在也能用,那請問他現在賺到什麼?
再請問維修詢價跟您本身學心理學有何關係?
另外,真的無需自謙,您的心思一點都不單純
只是思路跟普羅大眾實在差異太大
文中表示對自己的煞車調整是否危險並不瞭解
但開頭被騙、結尾FUCK、也表示自己裝過電瓶跟煞車皮很瞭解行情
一個對機車(或任何器材)不甚了解的人,會在詢價後有如此肯定的反應嗎?
連對方講價思考都不允許? 這要求是否太過了點?
一般人只關心價格多少、修了能不能用、要花多久時間、服務態度好不好
您連店家回應的過程、神情都考慮在內......
這已經超過普通人能理解的範圍了
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→ id110830:G大論點一直強調客源不同,所以價錢不同 09/07 19:08
→ id110830:這點我同意,那你可以解釋C店家嗎??為什麼價碼3次都不同 09/07 19:08
→ id110830:我ㄉ論點一直在強調他們漫天"亂"喊價 09/07 19:08
→ id110830: 的 09/07 19:09
這家應該是沒有牌定標價或者貼著不二價的牌子
維修買賣以詢價溝通對吧(生鮮賣場VS傳統市場)
你所貼的三次價格,有沒有發現一個規律? 『亂』的越來越低
第一次~前450,後400
第二次~前350,後350
第三次~前300,後350
試問你今天在菜市場看到高麗菜賣40/一斤,你詢價購買後三斤
隔壁來了一位阿婆,經過多次詢問,35/一斤,買三斤算100
所以以您的觀點,這個菜販也是又黑又亂喊價
詢價本來就是提供雙方磋商價格的機會
你詢問多次,對方也降價,只是最終價格還是無法接受
就這三次詢問,推得這點沒錯吧
→ id110830:同樣是在桃園區,我相信中原也有黑店,也有大家推的店 09/07 19:10
→ id110830:那為什麼中原附近的店家多數不敢亂喊價,因為太黑傳的快 09/07 19:11
→ id110830:同個東西你說比較偏遠可以貴一點,這點我可以接受 09/07 19:12
→ id110830:我不能接受同一家店,面對不同客人喊的價錢不一樣 09/07 19:13
→ id110830:看起來老實就要多付一點錢嗎??? 09/07 19:14
無法接受不同人商議出不同價格,為何不去有標定牌價的車行作維修呢?
零件售價、工錢、維修單據、甚至維修流程都一目了然
且又假設今天您跟對方拿到更優惠的價錢,又當如何?
因為你比較會講價,所以別人買貴就要多付一點錢嗎?
正常來說......是的,講價各憑本事,因為店內無定價,雙方講定為準
→ id110830:最後說一件事情,不是每個人面對任何問題都有能力自己動手 09/07 19:14
→ id110830:解決,G大對機車有興趣自我研究自我整修,不想給人賺這筆錢 09/07 19:15
→ id110830:很抱歉我目前沒興趣也沒時間研究, 09/07 19:16
您講這句不是在開玩笑嗎?
開頭就說被騙得很慘,在A店換電瓶,您的內心OS也表示您曾經換過也瞭解價碼
試問以您對安裝電瓶的瞭解,是還需要自我研究自我整修什麼?
沒換過不瞭解的人,會說自己被騙得很慘嗎? 被宰都不自知才對吧
看了這樣的文章,推薦這個人自己動手有何不對?
如果您不想動手,想以詢價找到您心目中所求,那當然是另當別論
以上只針對您的問題,每個人?要是一個完全不懂的人問 建議就不會如此了
→ id110830:難道面對颱風過後,業者亂喊價刻意炒高菜價, 09/07 19:17
→ id110830:G大面對這種事情也是叫別人自己種菜嗎??? 09/07 19:17
1.到材料行買所需型號的電瓶,灌好水,跟材料行借個起子拆裝新舊電瓶
2.買斤綠豆泡水後丟進無光容器定時換水,等他發芽
(豆芽應該算是常見蔬菜內最速成的了)
兩者所需時間,你要不要比較一下?
我一直講都是『簡單的』自己來,一個看過換過的人 自己換電瓶會比種菜難?
→ id110830:另外提醒2件事情 09/07 19:19
→ id110830:我的標題是[反推]..請你看清楚我並沒有"騙人" 09/07 19:20
→ id110830:文章後面我也說很清楚,我相信我自己可能只是"個案" 09/07 19:21
→ id110830:我並沒有一概而論 09/07 19:22
以上推文包括我本人,哪位質疑您騙人了?
我推文只指出同一家店有人一家買了6台且服務到現在都很滿意
但是您詢問後得到『換電瓶要連傳動一起整理』的回應
如果此回應屬實,這證明店家確實不老實
但並非每個人在此店都遭到如此惡劣的服務
→ bookman66:除了A2以外 我覺得原PO想太多 你也沒花到錢就說黑 09/07 19:32
→ bookman66:A1噴了東西加上摩擦就有可能正常 你付了潤滑費? 09/07 19:34
→ bookman66:B碟鼓煞本來就可以用看的就知道磨耗程度 09/07 19:35
→ bookman66:C沒指定耗材料號 不同牌子不同價格很正常 09/07 19:36
→ id110830:所以A店員工擺明就是要我花錢阿!!!明知噴一噴就好 09/07 19:37
→ id110830:幹嘛騙我說壞掉要我換新的 09/07 19:38
這預設立場會不會太多了點?
那請問一個『擺明要你花錢』的店家,『明知開關噴一噴就好』
還會幫你噴了之後,才騙你說壞了要換新?
跳過噴劑這步驟,直接換掉收錢不是對店家更有利嗎???
他幫你噴了,現在也能用,那請問他現在賺到什麼?
→ bookman66:誰知道噴一噴會不會好? 原PO自有想法我就不多回答了 09/07 19:38
→ id110830:而且C店家我敘述很清楚,從頭到尾愛理不理,問個價錢問3次 09/07 19:39
→ id110830:最後還是要沉思5秒才能報價,意圖不軌 09/07 19:40
→ id110830:噴了應該會好的話,那應該是請客人在試看看吧!!! 09/07 19:41
→ id110830:不是當下就要客人換新 09/07 19:41
→ id110830:不好意思,可能我敘述不夠清楚你們不太了解現場狀況劇 09/07 19:42
→ id110830:本人學心理學,所以對那些意圖不軌的人比較敏感 09/07 19:44
再請問維修詢價跟您本身學心理學有何關係?
另外,真的無需自謙,您的心思一點都不單純
只是思路跟普羅大眾實在差異太大
文中表示對自己的煞車調整是否危險並不瞭解
但開頭被騙、結尾FUCK、也表示自己裝過電瓶跟煞車皮很瞭解行情
一個對機車(或任何器材)不甚了解的人,會在詢價後有如此肯定的反應嗎?
連對方講價思考都不允許? 這要求是否太過了點?
一般人只關心價格多少、修了能不能用、要花多久時間、服務態度好不好
您連店家回應的過程、神情都考慮在內......
這已經超過普通人能理解的範圍了
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