土地有效利用是人民福祉? - 高雄

By Zora
at 2016-11-26T19:31
at 2016-11-26T19:31
Table of Contents
※ 引述《lpllpllpl (三個LPL)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《DR0308 (DR)》之銘言:
: 如下照片
: http://i.imgur.com/gODmjOe.jpg
: 這一片空地也在這邊很久
: 印象中應該是台糖土地
: 如果這一片空間再尚未動土開發前
: 能可以像是台北河提旁
: 蓋些簡單壘球場(可以酌收場地費)
: 或者直排輪場等一些親子活動運動空間
: 那該多好
: 而不是讓土地空在那來炒做
: (遠目.....
今天如果這塊地是你家的...
你會拿來搞活動空間嗎..XD
部會阿,幾十億上百億的土地耶.
另外,釋出容易收回難.
你自己看中石化被原住民強佔的土地,今天他要收回要多難..
另外,這筆開發的錢誰要出??
收那些場地費除了根本抵不掉開發的成本(我看20年都無法回收)外.
你溜個直排輪,散個步要收費??你覺得會有人去嗎??
再者,運氣好如果高雄真的起飛,可能五年八年就有使用機會了.
那你不就剛蓋下去就要拆??
但其實亞硫酸那邊,不就有弄一個藝術造型.(一心路那邊)
花了超過兩千萬....
(不包含那個藝術造型的東西,那個東西的費用我不知道但是是額外的
他只是整地弄綠地和旁邊的人行道就兩千萬了.)
那邊將來都是住宅區,包含旁邊還沒拆還沒重劃的.
之後會串連31期全都是新大樓.
威京集團也是說,反正這邊我會大賺一筆,所以在重劃好之前我回饋市政弄個公園出來.
可是基本上,並不是每一個財團都是這麼好說話的.
另外,威京集團這樣搞,以後對這一區住宅用地拿來轉賣是正面的.
so..2000萬是靠以後土地可以多賣個20億做打算.
但新彎曲不能蓋住宅,你只能蓋商用.
你蓋商用下,這些花邊造成的效應太差外,他面積太大弄下去都是億字頭.
所以他們不太會去做這種事情.
直接養空地養到哪一天賣掉或是有其他企業跑過來要用看是租還是合作再說.
至於開發喔.
企業這兩年都嚇死了,都出國了.
沒人要開發的拉.
你看南向政策還是"叫台商加碼去東南亞投資"
那誰來開發高雄阿??
台塑帶4500億去美國了,中小型的也帶幾億幾十億去東南亞了.
那...我....我可以出4500塊開發新彎曲歐,鳩米...
看看超狂的地價稅,到時候遠雄放棄大巨蛋安全下庄可能還爽翻勒..XD
中信應該也感嘆"好家在沒有去接手bot"
不過中信不知道有沒有後悔接了高雄的圖書館二期..那個租金也是被大漲的很痛.
不要說開幕,還沒動工就被漲租金,不知道他的內心是怎樣的一個感想..
--
: ※ 引述《DR0308 (DR)》之銘言:
: 如下照片
: http://i.imgur.com/gODmjOe.jpg

: 印象中應該是台糖土地
: 如果這一片空間再尚未動土開發前
: 能可以像是台北河提旁
: 蓋些簡單壘球場(可以酌收場地費)
: 或者直排輪場等一些親子活動運動空間
: 那該多好
: 而不是讓土地空在那來炒做
: (遠目.....
今天如果這塊地是你家的...
你會拿來搞活動空間嗎..XD
部會阿,幾十億上百億的土地耶.
另外,釋出容易收回難.
你自己看中石化被原住民強佔的土地,今天他要收回要多難..
另外,這筆開發的錢誰要出??
收那些場地費除了根本抵不掉開發的成本(我看20年都無法回收)外.
你溜個直排輪,散個步要收費??你覺得會有人去嗎??
再者,運氣好如果高雄真的起飛,可能五年八年就有使用機會了.
那你不就剛蓋下去就要拆??
但其實亞硫酸那邊,不就有弄一個藝術造型.(一心路那邊)
花了超過兩千萬....
(不包含那個藝術造型的東西,那個東西的費用我不知道但是是額外的
他只是整地弄綠地和旁邊的人行道就兩千萬了.)
那邊將來都是住宅區,包含旁邊還沒拆還沒重劃的.
之後會串連31期全都是新大樓.
威京集團也是說,反正這邊我會大賺一筆,所以在重劃好之前我回饋市政弄個公園出來.
可是基本上,並不是每一個財團都是這麼好說話的.
另外,威京集團這樣搞,以後對這一區住宅用地拿來轉賣是正面的.
so..2000萬是靠以後土地可以多賣個20億做打算.
但新彎曲不能蓋住宅,你只能蓋商用.
你蓋商用下,這些花邊造成的效應太差外,他面積太大弄下去都是億字頭.
所以他們不太會去做這種事情.
直接養空地養到哪一天賣掉或是有其他企業跑過來要用看是租還是合作再說.
至於開發喔.
企業這兩年都嚇死了,都出國了.
沒人要開發的拉.
你看南向政策還是"叫台商加碼去東南亞投資"
那誰來開發高雄阿??
台塑帶4500億去美國了,中小型的也帶幾億幾十億去東南亞了.
那...我....我可以出4500塊開發新彎曲歐,鳩米...
看看超狂的地價稅,到時候遠雄放棄大巨蛋安全下庄可能還爽翻勒..XD
中信應該也感嘆"好家在沒有去接手bot"
不過中信不知道有沒有後悔接了高雄的圖書館二期..那個租金也是被大漲的很痛.
不要說開幕,還沒動工就被漲租金,不知道他的內心是怎樣的一個感想..
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