台鐵版北宜直鐵,是不是較無爭議? - 宜蘭
By Yuri
at 2021-08-23T09:23
at 2021-08-23T09:23
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※ 引述《ilanese (我寫故我在)》之銘言:
: 台鐵版北宜直鐵沒有車站選址問題徵收問題也最少。
: 我相信宜蘭鄉親對台鐵版北宜直鐵也較無意見。
: 不如高鐵方案先擱置,再花個幾年評估台鐵版北宜直鐵,大家說好不好?
:
個人意見,給各位先進參考:
1.宜蘭需要的是高鐵還是北宜直鐵?
以西部為例,高鐵應該都是商務人士在搭乘,通勤的人應該很難支撐高票價。
我們宜蘭並沒有那麼大的行政中心及市場,吸引商務人士來宜蘭。
會往來宜蘭台北的主要是通勤人口,
每日的交通費用會大大影響通勤族使用的意願。
這些人需要的是像首都、葛瑪蘭這種便宜、方便的交通方式。
以這個需求來看,高鐵帶來的效益有限,而且也會抄高房價,
不利在地人民的生活品質。
(許多先進提出高鐵通勤仍具可行性,
ASUS有接續寫一篇蠻詳細的說明,
有興趣的人可以參考。
我的見解較偏向個人主觀判斷)
2.若以上面的觀點來看,
我個人認為ilanese所提出的臺鐵走雪山隧道的直鐵是較佳解方,
這個方案因為路線短,未來票價也會很有競爭力,讓通勤族多一個選項。
商務人士也可以利用這個方式來宜蘭辦公。
有機會吸引往來臺北-宜蘭的青壯年通勤族來宜蘭定居,
特別是因為工作只能北飄的宜蘭在地子民。
如此可以帶動宜蘭青壯人口提升,刺激消費及經濟發展,也可以疏緩臺北人口壓力。
不過這個方案有環境影響的爭議需要克服,是個瞞大的挑戰。
3.西部高鐵會成功,很大的原因是它取代了飛機,
增加了商務活動的方便性及經濟性。主要負擔高鐵票價的都是公司行號,
真的用它來旅遊的,我個人是覺得相當有限。
宜蘭到台北本來就不算遠,如果轉乘時間讓整個通勤時間加大,
很容易影響其使用意願。以商務人士的的觀點,
到宜蘭後以商務辦公為首要需求,宜蘭、縣政中心是相對較佳的選擇。
但是這類的商務人士有多到需要建高鐵嗎?
4.以宜蘭的人口條件來看,
高鐵新建在未發展素地可以簡單類比苗栗、雲林、嘉義站的情況,
以這些站的現況來看,高鐵帶動新市鎮發展的理想似乎很難達成,
不應該過度理想化的畫大餅。
5.從國家建設的考量上,興建高鐵可以達到政府一日生活圈的政策目標。
但是若以宜蘭人自身的利益來看,高鐵可以給我們什麼?高地價、高房價、高物價?
我們宜蘭縣民每個月薪水不高 (感謝jemdogdog的指正),
一旦高鐵決定興建後,對於沒有地、沒有房的中、下階層宜蘭縣民衝擊會很大。
感謝許多先進對於小弟部分不成熟論述的指正。
更高興有許多人提出見解,
對於這種長遠影響宜蘭縣的重大建設,
我個人認為不能只有政府說了算,宜蘭的建設不是有就好,
除了「有」還應要「好」,不然不如不要。
不管意見好、壞、贊正、反對,
相信都是出自於熱愛宜蘭土地的那一份心。
我們的目標一致,希望一起付出關心,讓宜蘭更好。
--
: 台鐵版北宜直鐵沒有車站選址問題徵收問題也最少。
: 我相信宜蘭鄉親對台鐵版北宜直鐵也較無意見。
: 不如高鐵方案先擱置,再花個幾年評估台鐵版北宜直鐵,大家說好不好?
:
個人意見,給各位先進參考:
1.宜蘭需要的是高鐵還是北宜直鐵?
以西部為例,高鐵應該都是商務人士在搭乘,通勤的人應該很難支撐高票價。
我們宜蘭並沒有那麼大的行政中心及市場,吸引商務人士來宜蘭。
會往來宜蘭台北的主要是通勤人口,
每日的交通費用會大大影響通勤族使用的意願。
這些人需要的是像首都、葛瑪蘭這種便宜、方便的交通方式。
以這個需求來看,高鐵帶來的效益有限,而且也會抄高房價,
不利在地人民的生活品質。
(許多先進提出高鐵通勤仍具可行性,
ASUS有接續寫一篇蠻詳細的說明,
有興趣的人可以參考。
我的見解較偏向個人主觀判斷)
2.若以上面的觀點來看,
我個人認為ilanese所提出的臺鐵走雪山隧道的直鐵是較佳解方,
這個方案因為路線短,未來票價也會很有競爭力,讓通勤族多一個選項。
商務人士也可以利用這個方式來宜蘭辦公。
有機會吸引往來臺北-宜蘭的青壯年通勤族來宜蘭定居,
特別是因為工作只能北飄的宜蘭在地子民。
如此可以帶動宜蘭青壯人口提升,刺激消費及經濟發展,也可以疏緩臺北人口壓力。
不過這個方案有環境影響的爭議需要克服,是個瞞大的挑戰。
3.西部高鐵會成功,很大的原因是它取代了飛機,
增加了商務活動的方便性及經濟性。主要負擔高鐵票價的都是公司行號,
真的用它來旅遊的,我個人是覺得相當有限。
宜蘭到台北本來就不算遠,如果轉乘時間讓整個通勤時間加大,
很容易影響其使用意願。以商務人士的的觀點,
到宜蘭後以商務辦公為首要需求,宜蘭、縣政中心是相對較佳的選擇。
但是這類的商務人士有多到需要建高鐵嗎?
4.以宜蘭的人口條件來看,
高鐵新建在未發展素地可以簡單類比苗栗、雲林、嘉義站的情況,
以這些站的現況來看,高鐵帶動新市鎮發展的理想似乎很難達成,
不應該過度理想化的畫大餅。
5.從國家建設的考量上,興建高鐵可以達到政府一日生活圈的政策目標。
但是若以宜蘭人自身的利益來看,高鐵可以給我們什麼?高地價、高房價、高物價?
我們宜蘭縣民每個月薪水不高 (感謝jemdogdog的指正),
一旦高鐵決定興建後,對於沒有地、沒有房的中、下階層宜蘭縣民衝擊會很大。
感謝許多先進對於小弟部分不成熟論述的指正。
更高興有許多人提出見解,
對於這種長遠影響宜蘭縣的重大建設,
我個人認為不能只有政府說了算,宜蘭的建設不是有就好,
除了「有」還應要「好」,不然不如不要。
不管意見好、壞、贊正、反對,
相信都是出自於熱愛宜蘭土地的那一份心。
我們的目標一致,希望一起付出關心,讓宜蘭更好。
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