又一重大投資…台積南進高雄 建7奈米廠 - 高雄
By Emma
at 2021-09-07T23:12
at 2021-09-07T23:12
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GG主要應該是因為.
電動車+智能家具電.
造成全球晶片大缺貨.
外加疫情又增加遠距離設備需求.
例如我現在用的人臉辨識門鎖,那個也要晶片
(不過要得晶片自然不需要太先進製程)
而美國想要把汽車產業從新拉回美國.
(不然汽車產業幾乎被日本德國瓜分,還搞到底特律破產)
所以要讓電動車成為一個大型改朝換代.
電動車晶片需求就要先進製程.
這一圈下來晶片廠自然大家都在拚擴廠.
因此台積電本來就要擴大很多廠.
但是擴廠要找土地,這個土地可沒那麼簡單.
台南市長就嗆過,南科有二期預定地,台積電7nm沒在南科根本是政治因素..XD
只是被媒體消毒...呵呵~~
因為你二期還要徵收土地,還要使用分區變更,還要OOXX.
高雄直接一路綠燈讓五輕土地可以直接利用.
當然啦你反過來說.
因為當年路科給南科管,科學園區設在台南,所以台積電之前才在台南.
如果你那時候南科給路科管.
那台積電在路科的機率就遠大於台南.聚落也不會在南科.
這也是政治因素..呵呵~~~
但不管,反正這些都是定局的事情無法改變.
政不政治,你們搞政治的自己去搞,我們人民只要結果,結果對我們好就是對的.!!
(我們人民很現實的...我只要對我好,就是對的,對我不好就是錯的!!!
絕不跟你假掰!!!!!)
而7rm擴廠是打包六個廠,而不是一個7nm廠估拎拎地在那邊.
因此這影響很大,他是一連串開發,而非單一工廠.
必然產生聚落,也必然產生供應鏈.
橋科目前看起來就是給供應鏈去的.
另外路科有二期,我不知道各位忘記了沒有.
也就是,5輕整個給台積電設六個廠,橋科給台積電供應鏈,路科二期給其他人.
目前配置可能會是這樣.
日月光還想要土地,那有機率要嘛仁武新的產業園區,要嘛就是讓他去大寮.
而台積電六個廠,擬就比照台南,員工大概15000人,薪資中位數大概16x萬年薪.
整個南科台南園區有六萬六千人.
橋科和五輕有機率就比照這個規模.
橋科+五輕的土地比南科台南園區還大...
當然你對整個高雄而言,這些人影響其實也還是有限.
但是重要的並不是單純這些工作人口.
而是他是否可以刺激像日月光把薪水拉高.
不要大本營在高雄,結果給的薪水比中壢廠的薪水低那麼明顯.
這樣太過分了.
因此一個台積電產業鏈會需要幾萬人進場.
這時候你只要多搶一些日月光的工程師.
那日月光是否就會有壓力必須加薪留人.
而只要啟動這個加薪良性循環.
這樣高雄薪資就會有某個階段的可期待成長.
so...重點不是一萬五千人的台積電員工.
重點是整個低薪體制是否可以改善.
你壓榨外勞我們都沒意見,它們又不是台灣人,它們一點都不重要.
但你壓榨外勞,好處和糖果要留給台灣員工吃阿.
尤其你的本家,你本家高雄的員工還給低薪是三小狀況??
在這樣就查你汙水排放喔!!!!
另外,最新名言是.
"台積電員工終於可以搭捷運上班了"
目前唯一有捷運的台積電廠區.
另外也是所有台積電廠裡,最繁華的地點.
其他台積電廠大多都鳥不生蛋的地方..
然後又要隨call即到..所以不能住太遠..XD
當然啦GG輪班救台灣,八點半到廠,九點半離廠,這就是人參.
然後...這對家裡有點錢的而言,當然是地獄,還不准帶自己的手機.
我大學同學進去5個,4個三個月內就逃亡,最快台大碩班那個三天就逃亡..XD
當然剩下那一個撐到今天,超屌...!!!!
反觀中鋼師級,養生工作,年薪百萬up..我這種沒工作的還可以約他們白天出來唱歌..
因此以前是中鋼師級比台積電還難進去,最近不知道.
但無論怎樣,高雄的交通狀況還不錯.
因此台積電年薪兩三百萬的,又在高雄邊緣這種地點.
它們可以選到比其他縣市更爽的居住位置.
甚至住到美術館和農16我相信都是不少比率的人會這樣選擇.
當然啦,對於房價而言,看的不是基本面,而是炒做.
並且這個炒作是建商主導,非我們投資客.
(建商主導的和投資客主導的炒作型態會不一樣...
建商炒做優先看建地,其次看整體環境打造.
投資客炒作優先看補漲,其次看建物量)
so...高鐵和橋頭新市鎮一定是熱炒區,在短時間內會有最強爆發力.
只是當然他們的起跳價格都不低,因此以中長期而言,達到終端價格,並不一定是最多的.
高鐵還難講,市區炒作有時候很瘋狂,但橋頭有機率會遇到價格的瓶頸.
而隱藏版的桃子園和沒人想到的仁武重劃區,卻有機會最後跳起來的距離比較高..XD
(但仁武熱度絕對不會很熱,他會一直悶燒,桃子園則是時間還沒到..時間到會很強)
(另外仁武重劃區過去五輕的距離很近,自己看google map,路還超大條)
(仁武這一連串會連到榮總旁邊的霞海重劃區,霞海也會炒
只是因為土地都太子的.所以熱度還好..建商不夠多,炒做就有限,尤其沒有興富發這種)
但是在中短期會有很棒的短期投資效益,搭建商的熱炒列車.
衝一波大噴發後換物件.有機率賺到更多錢...
至於台積電員工到底住哪...
對於炒作主導的市場而言,並不重要.
不要研究太細.你會判斷市場錯誤...XD
市場是賣家決定的,不是買家.
所以炒做是建商決定的,不是台積電員工.
你市場窩久了就知道我再說甚麼.
中鋼員工很多跑去林園買透天別墅,因為便宜,之前7xx~1000..
(你再小港,新的同樣等級就要13xx~15xx,中鋼員級,或是家境差一點的師級買起來就很吃力)
但是你看林園別墅哪時候熱過...XD
你討論本質幹嘛??
這一波台積電來剛好搭到地球人類有史以來最大印鈔時間點.
還滿妙的.
應該會是一個滿關鍵的轉捩點.
當然反過來講.
這必然是一個貧富差距更擴大的時間點.
並且無解,這不是台灣可以改變的,這是世界的問題.
--
電動車+智能家具電.
造成全球晶片大缺貨.
外加疫情又增加遠距離設備需求.
例如我現在用的人臉辨識門鎖,那個也要晶片
(不過要得晶片自然不需要太先進製程)
而美國想要把汽車產業從新拉回美國.
(不然汽車產業幾乎被日本德國瓜分,還搞到底特律破產)
所以要讓電動車成為一個大型改朝換代.
電動車晶片需求就要先進製程.
這一圈下來晶片廠自然大家都在拚擴廠.
因此台積電本來就要擴大很多廠.
但是擴廠要找土地,這個土地可沒那麼簡單.
台南市長就嗆過,南科有二期預定地,台積電7nm沒在南科根本是政治因素..XD
只是被媒體消毒...呵呵~~
因為你二期還要徵收土地,還要使用分區變更,還要OOXX.
高雄直接一路綠燈讓五輕土地可以直接利用.
當然啦你反過來說.
因為當年路科給南科管,科學園區設在台南,所以台積電之前才在台南.
如果你那時候南科給路科管.
那台積電在路科的機率就遠大於台南.聚落也不會在南科.
這也是政治因素..呵呵~~~
但不管,反正這些都是定局的事情無法改變.
政不政治,你們搞政治的自己去搞,我們人民只要結果,結果對我們好就是對的.!!
(我們人民很現實的...我只要對我好,就是對的,對我不好就是錯的!!!
絕不跟你假掰!!!!!)
而7rm擴廠是打包六個廠,而不是一個7nm廠估拎拎地在那邊.
因此這影響很大,他是一連串開發,而非單一工廠.
必然產生聚落,也必然產生供應鏈.
橋科目前看起來就是給供應鏈去的.
另外路科有二期,我不知道各位忘記了沒有.
也就是,5輕整個給台積電設六個廠,橋科給台積電供應鏈,路科二期給其他人.
目前配置可能會是這樣.
日月光還想要土地,那有機率要嘛仁武新的產業園區,要嘛就是讓他去大寮.
而台積電六個廠,擬就比照台南,員工大概15000人,薪資中位數大概16x萬年薪.
整個南科台南園區有六萬六千人.
橋科和五輕有機率就比照這個規模.
橋科+五輕的土地比南科台南園區還大...
當然你對整個高雄而言,這些人影響其實也還是有限.
但是重要的並不是單純這些工作人口.
而是他是否可以刺激像日月光把薪水拉高.
不要大本營在高雄,結果給的薪水比中壢廠的薪水低那麼明顯.
這樣太過分了.
因此一個台積電產業鏈會需要幾萬人進場.
這時候你只要多搶一些日月光的工程師.
那日月光是否就會有壓力必須加薪留人.
而只要啟動這個加薪良性循環.
這樣高雄薪資就會有某個階段的可期待成長.
so...重點不是一萬五千人的台積電員工.
重點是整個低薪體制是否可以改善.
你壓榨外勞我們都沒意見,它們又不是台灣人,它們一點都不重要.
但你壓榨外勞,好處和糖果要留給台灣員工吃阿.
尤其你的本家,你本家高雄的員工還給低薪是三小狀況??
在這樣就查你汙水排放喔!!!!
另外,最新名言是.
"台積電員工終於可以搭捷運上班了"
目前唯一有捷運的台積電廠區.
另外也是所有台積電廠裡,最繁華的地點.
其他台積電廠大多都鳥不生蛋的地方..
然後又要隨call即到..所以不能住太遠..XD
當然啦GG輪班救台灣,八點半到廠,九點半離廠,這就是人參.
然後...這對家裡有點錢的而言,當然是地獄,還不准帶自己的手機.
我大學同學進去5個,4個三個月內就逃亡,最快台大碩班那個三天就逃亡..XD
當然剩下那一個撐到今天,超屌...!!!!
反觀中鋼師級,養生工作,年薪百萬up..我這種沒工作的還可以約他們白天出來唱歌..
因此以前是中鋼師級比台積電還難進去,最近不知道.
但無論怎樣,高雄的交通狀況還不錯.
因此台積電年薪兩三百萬的,又在高雄邊緣這種地點.
它們可以選到比其他縣市更爽的居住位置.
甚至住到美術館和農16我相信都是不少比率的人會這樣選擇.
當然啦,對於房價而言,看的不是基本面,而是炒做.
並且這個炒作是建商主導,非我們投資客.
(建商主導的和投資客主導的炒作型態會不一樣...
建商炒做優先看建地,其次看整體環境打造.
投資客炒作優先看補漲,其次看建物量)
so...高鐵和橋頭新市鎮一定是熱炒區,在短時間內會有最強爆發力.
只是當然他們的起跳價格都不低,因此以中長期而言,達到終端價格,並不一定是最多的.
高鐵還難講,市區炒作有時候很瘋狂,但橋頭有機率會遇到價格的瓶頸.
而隱藏版的桃子園和沒人想到的仁武重劃區,卻有機會最後跳起來的距離比較高..XD
(但仁武熱度絕對不會很熱,他會一直悶燒,桃子園則是時間還沒到..時間到會很強)
(另外仁武重劃區過去五輕的距離很近,自己看google map,路還超大條)
(仁武這一連串會連到榮總旁邊的霞海重劃區,霞海也會炒
只是因為土地都太子的.所以熱度還好..建商不夠多,炒做就有限,尤其沒有興富發這種)
但是在中短期會有很棒的短期投資效益,搭建商的熱炒列車.
衝一波大噴發後換物件.有機率賺到更多錢...
至於台積電員工到底住哪...
對於炒作主導的市場而言,並不重要.
不要研究太細.你會判斷市場錯誤...XD
市場是賣家決定的,不是買家.
所以炒做是建商決定的,不是台積電員工.
你市場窩久了就知道我再說甚麼.
中鋼員工很多跑去林園買透天別墅,因為便宜,之前7xx~1000..
(你再小港,新的同樣等級就要13xx~15xx,中鋼員級,或是家境差一點的師級買起來就很吃力)
但是你看林園別墅哪時候熱過...XD
你討論本質幹嘛??
這一波台積電來剛好搭到地球人類有史以來最大印鈔時間點.
還滿妙的.
應該會是一個滿關鍵的轉捩點.
當然反過來講.
這必然是一個貧富差距更擴大的時間點.
並且無解,這不是台灣可以改變的,這是世界的問題.
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