南延案打腫臉充胖子…屏東人要1小時1班 - 屏東

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作者: hn9480412 (ilinker) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 南延案打腫臉充胖子…屏東人要1小時1班
時間: Thu Sep 12 20:46:59 2019
南延案打腫臉充胖子…屏東人要1小時1班的高鐵嗎?
2019-09-09 23:54聯合報 記者吳姿賢、翁禎霞/連線報導
行政院再拋高鐵南延屏東,但關鍵在不管是哪一案,鐵道學者多認為不可行,甚至指經濟
效益不足,無法回收建設成本,硬蓋只是「打腫臉充胖子」;另未來高鐵到屏東一小時頂
多一班車,「這是屏東人要的嗎?屏東人要選擇一小時一班的高鐵直達車,還是一小時六
班的台鐵再轉乘到屏東?」
「爭取高鐵到屏東聯盟」昨晚發聲明指出,民進黨政府此舉是政治決定,將會讓屏東發展
禍患無窮、禍延子孫,根本達不到所謂交通帶動屏東經濟投資的預期效益。
聲明中指出,若高鐵延伸由左營站直接到屏東,根本忽視高屏區域聯合發展,將不利高屏
區域更進一步整合交通,延伸路線應該經由高雄市區再到屏東,才是最合理的高屏聯合治
理與區域發展。
聯盟指出,高鐵延伸屏東,不只人流也要考慮車流問題,請問六塊厝高鐵設站周邊有足夠
停車位嗎?六塊厝腹地真的能夠發展成為有前瞻性的屏東產業園區嗎?那都是癡人說夢話
而已。屏中地區過去是台糖土地,才是真正未來屏東最有潛力的發展地區。
聯盟質疑,若高鐵延伸屏東選擇從左營延伸六塊厝,各種資料已說明,這將只是支線車站
,並非始發車的主站,而且未來恐將一小時一班車次,這種花大錢搞效益極低的建設,形
同讓斥資巨額的蚊子館債留子孫。
曾任高鐵南延審查委員的淡江大學運輸管理學系教授張勝雄就說,軌道延伸計畫是否可行
,最重要是檢驗未來收益能否攤平建設成本,過去最先被評估的燕巢、左營兩案,曾因財
務及經濟效益過低被打回票,新提出的高雄及小港潮州案成本更高,「顯然更不可行」。
也就是說,不管挑哪一案,關鍵在源頭的高鐵延伸根本不該蓋。張勝雄說,並非不支持屏
東有好的交通建設,但公共政策要綜合考量,「有多少能量做多少錢的事,國家財政無法
負荷,就別打腫臉充胖子」。
逢甲大學智慧運輸與物流創新中心副主任鍾慧諭也說,過去台灣鐵道網界定一小時可到稱
為「一日生活圈」,現在屏東搭台鐵去高雄,一小時內一定可到。屏東已達成「基本民行
」,若要再做更高階服務,須探討可得到多少效益,「不是人家有我就要有」。
有不願具名的鐵道專家甚至說,當年屏東機場的錯誤決策殷鑑不遠,去年前瞻計畫也沒辦
法讓執政黨保住縣市選情,為何財務效益低的投資還要一而再、再而三政策買票?
張勝雄說,當初審議評估即使高鐵延伸屏東,一小時最多一班車,並不是所有到高雄的車
都會再往屏東走,否則對營運虧損會更大,但「這是屏東人要的嗎?」
一小時還嫌?沒有跟北海道新幹線的奥津軽いまべつ一樣2~3小時一班車就算不錯了啦
https://i.imgur.com/BIIs4vl.png
自以為客流量跟新左營/台中/台北一樣喔
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作者 goipait (GoGo) 看板 Gossiping
標題 [問卦] 有沒有彥州懶人包?
時間 Sat May 28 08:23:13 2016
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作者: hn9480412 (ilinker) 看板: Gossiping
標題: [新聞] 南延案打腫臉充胖子…屏東人要1小時1班
時間: Thu Sep 12 20:46:59 2019
南延案打腫臉充胖子…屏東人要1小時1班的高鐵嗎?
2019-09-09 23:54聯合報 記者吳姿賢、翁禎霞/連線報導
行政院再拋高鐵南延屏東,但關鍵在不管是哪一案,鐵道學者多認為不可行,甚至指經濟
效益不足,無法回收建設成本,硬蓋只是「打腫臉充胖子」;另未來高鐵到屏東一小時頂
多一班車,「這是屏東人要的嗎?屏東人要選擇一小時一班的高鐵直達車,還是一小時六
班的台鐵再轉乘到屏東?」
「爭取高鐵到屏東聯盟」昨晚發聲明指出,民進黨政府此舉是政治決定,將會讓屏東發展
禍患無窮、禍延子孫,根本達不到所謂交通帶動屏東經濟投資的預期效益。
聲明中指出,若高鐵延伸由左營站直接到屏東,根本忽視高屏區域聯合發展,將不利高屏
區域更進一步整合交通,延伸路線應該經由高雄市區再到屏東,才是最合理的高屏聯合治
理與區域發展。
聯盟指出,高鐵延伸屏東,不只人流也要考慮車流問題,請問六塊厝高鐵設站周邊有足夠
停車位嗎?六塊厝腹地真的能夠發展成為有前瞻性的屏東產業園區嗎?那都是癡人說夢話
而已。屏中地區過去是台糖土地,才是真正未來屏東最有潛力的發展地區。
聯盟質疑,若高鐵延伸屏東選擇從左營延伸六塊厝,各種資料已說明,這將只是支線車站
,並非始發車的主站,而且未來恐將一小時一班車次,這種花大錢搞效益極低的建設,形
同讓斥資巨額的蚊子館債留子孫。
曾任高鐵南延審查委員的淡江大學運輸管理學系教授張勝雄就說,軌道延伸計畫是否可行
,最重要是檢驗未來收益能否攤平建設成本,過去最先被評估的燕巢、左營兩案,曾因財
務及經濟效益過低被打回票,新提出的高雄及小港潮州案成本更高,「顯然更不可行」。
也就是說,不管挑哪一案,關鍵在源頭的高鐵延伸根本不該蓋。張勝雄說,並非不支持屏
東有好的交通建設,但公共政策要綜合考量,「有多少能量做多少錢的事,國家財政無法
負荷,就別打腫臉充胖子」。
逢甲大學智慧運輸與物流創新中心副主任鍾慧諭也說,過去台灣鐵道網界定一小時可到稱
為「一日生活圈」,現在屏東搭台鐵去高雄,一小時內一定可到。屏東已達成「基本民行
」,若要再做更高階服務,須探討可得到多少效益,「不是人家有我就要有」。
有不願具名的鐵道專家甚至說,當年屏東機場的錯誤決策殷鑑不遠,去年前瞻計畫也沒辦
法讓執政黨保住縣市選情,為何財務效益低的投資還要一而再、再而三政策買票?
張勝雄說,當初審議評估即使高鐵延伸屏東,一小時最多一班車,並不是所有到高雄的車
都會再往屏東走,否則對營運虧損會更大,但「這是屏東人要的嗎?」
一小時還嫌?沒有跟北海道新幹線的奥津軽いまべつ一樣2~3小時一班車就算不錯了啦
https://i.imgur.com/BIIs4vl.png

自以為客流量跟新左營/台中/台北一樣喔
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作者 goipait (GoGo) 看板 Gossiping
標題 [問卦] 有沒有彥州懶人包?
時間 Sat May 28 08:23:13 2016
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