「否決陳菊政策」韓辦:高雄輕軌不排除更 - 高雄

By Quintina
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就一個長期支持發展大眾運輸的人,
我認為輕軌仍應完整地把他蓋好,
而且標準要提升至扭轉市民對於輕軌的偏見,
這一點顯然陳菊團隊其實做得不好,
原因是輕軌的號誌與平面道路號誌,
長期處於整合不佳,
以致於輕軌列車每過路口,
除了有許多交警管制外,還提早禁止車輛通過,
讓平面道路的駕駛人猶如在等平交道的火車一樣,
完全沒有當初宣傳十來秒便可通過路口的美好願景,
右彎車道、路口緩衝空間也很短,
例如舊凱旋路(內圈)要右轉鎮興路,若遇到紅燈,則幾乎不得不停車軌道區,
再加上道路紅綠燈並沒有做同步處理,
理想上紅燈應該就要把汽機車擋在舊凱旋路,
但這牽扯要有提前幾秒能感應列車到來的設備,
列車來前,凱旋路就顯示紅燈先禁止右轉,接著列車再通過,
而凱旋路准許右轉的綠燈一亮,
那麼垂直道路勢必也要綠燈,才不會讓車輛滯留於路口,
但這些號誌東西並都沒有整合好,
同時許多『平交道』都仍還停留在臺鐵臨港線時代,
例如中山凱旋路口、一心-瑞隆路口,
這麼大的路口車道也好幾個,除對行人極度不友善之外,
也很難控管輕軌與平面交通,
而輕軌列車從營運至今,
仍然會有走走停停的問題,票務系統也做得很糟,
顯然軟體經營仍亟需改善,
這些東西捷運局及交通局完全都是呈現腦死狀態,
韓準市長就任之後,應該要務實的去改善,
才會是比較正面的市長,
不然其實只是落入與陳菊市府的意識形態之爭而已,
高雄市民不會是贏家;
而話說回輕軌二階段,
我個人認為仍然應該要把他完成,
但是可以延後動工,
先把第一階段輕軌的問題摸熟、改善之後,
例如號誌參數的累積,可以拿來做為大數據減少對平面交通的衝擊,
提升市民的信心之後,
再予以動工興建,
也可以藉由公共工程的推動來振興經濟,
以經濟的角度來看,開源會比節流好;
而輕軌二階居民抗爭的問題,
西側路段不妨先蓋到C20(臺鐵美術館站)、東側到C29(建興路口),
因為居民一旦可以體驗使用,
自然而然就會轉為爭取輕軌興建~
※ 引述《teramars (tomorrow never knows)》之銘言:
: 「否決陳菊政策」 韓辦:高雄輕軌不排除更改路線或停建
: 高雄輕軌第2階段是否持續興建,在選前成為藍綠雙方熱議焦點,當時韓國瑜陣營結論是
: 希望留給新市長定奪,目前大選已過未來是否會持續興建輕軌,韓辦指出,「上任後優先
: 處理輕軌問題,不排除更改路線或停建。」
: 詢問韓國瑜競選辦公室發言人侯亞寧指出,輕軌是否要繼續興建,將是上任後優先處理重
: 大交通問題,包括農16大順路沿線與美術館地區有許多不同聲音,韓市長都很清楚與了解
: 住戶需求,未來不排除更改路線或停建,新市長上任後將立即跟專家學者做全盤評估,並
: 廣泛了解各方不同建議。
: 針對輕軌興建與否,高雄龍頭建商皇苑建設郭敏能指出,個人表態反對輕軌進入農16與美
: 術館地區,主因是輕軌與汽車共用路權,對於大順路勢必會造成交通問題,輕軌建置如同
: 鐵路般,好不容易台鐵地下化又做輕軌,對市區交通將會產生問題,另個原因是國外輕軌
: 無聲,高雄輕軌進站嗶!嗶!嗶!,在人口密集地方像美術館將對住戶生活品質有許多影響
: ,「我反應了美術館許多皇苑建設大樓社區共同心聲,建議輕軌做到C18鼓山站就好,不
: 要再延伸至市區。」
: (葉家銘/高雄報導)
: https://tw.finance.appledaily.com/realtime/20181128/1474280/
--
我認為輕軌仍應完整地把他蓋好,
而且標準要提升至扭轉市民對於輕軌的偏見,
這一點顯然陳菊團隊其實做得不好,
原因是輕軌的號誌與平面道路號誌,
長期處於整合不佳,
以致於輕軌列車每過路口,
除了有許多交警管制外,還提早禁止車輛通過,
讓平面道路的駕駛人猶如在等平交道的火車一樣,
完全沒有當初宣傳十來秒便可通過路口的美好願景,
右彎車道、路口緩衝空間也很短,
例如舊凱旋路(內圈)要右轉鎮興路,若遇到紅燈,則幾乎不得不停車軌道區,
再加上道路紅綠燈並沒有做同步處理,
理想上紅燈應該就要把汽機車擋在舊凱旋路,
但這牽扯要有提前幾秒能感應列車到來的設備,
列車來前,凱旋路就顯示紅燈先禁止右轉,接著列車再通過,
而凱旋路准許右轉的綠燈一亮,
那麼垂直道路勢必也要綠燈,才不會讓車輛滯留於路口,
但這些號誌東西並都沒有整合好,
同時許多『平交道』都仍還停留在臺鐵臨港線時代,
例如中山凱旋路口、一心-瑞隆路口,
這麼大的路口車道也好幾個,除對行人極度不友善之外,
也很難控管輕軌與平面交通,
而輕軌列車從營運至今,
仍然會有走走停停的問題,票務系統也做得很糟,
顯然軟體經營仍亟需改善,
這些東西捷運局及交通局完全都是呈現腦死狀態,
韓準市長就任之後,應該要務實的去改善,
才會是比較正面的市長,
不然其實只是落入與陳菊市府的意識形態之爭而已,
高雄市民不會是贏家;
而話說回輕軌二階段,
我個人認為仍然應該要把他完成,
但是可以延後動工,
先把第一階段輕軌的問題摸熟、改善之後,
例如號誌參數的累積,可以拿來做為大數據減少對平面交通的衝擊,
提升市民的信心之後,
再予以動工興建,
也可以藉由公共工程的推動來振興經濟,
以經濟的角度來看,開源會比節流好;
而輕軌二階居民抗爭的問題,
西側路段不妨先蓋到C20(臺鐵美術館站)、東側到C29(建興路口),
因為居民一旦可以體驗使用,
自然而然就會轉為爭取輕軌興建~
※ 引述《teramars (tomorrow never knows)》之銘言:
: 「否決陳菊政策」 韓辦:高雄輕軌不排除更改路線或停建
: 高雄輕軌第2階段是否持續興建,在選前成為藍綠雙方熱議焦點,當時韓國瑜陣營結論是
: 希望留給新市長定奪,目前大選已過未來是否會持續興建輕軌,韓辦指出,「上任後優先
: 處理輕軌問題,不排除更改路線或停建。」
: 詢問韓國瑜競選辦公室發言人侯亞寧指出,輕軌是否要繼續興建,將是上任後優先處理重
: 大交通問題,包括農16大順路沿線與美術館地區有許多不同聲音,韓市長都很清楚與了解
: 住戶需求,未來不排除更改路線或停建,新市長上任後將立即跟專家學者做全盤評估,並
: 廣泛了解各方不同建議。
: 針對輕軌興建與否,高雄龍頭建商皇苑建設郭敏能指出,個人表態反對輕軌進入農16與美
: 術館地區,主因是輕軌與汽車共用路權,對於大順路勢必會造成交通問題,輕軌建置如同
: 鐵路般,好不容易台鐵地下化又做輕軌,對市區交通將會產生問題,另個原因是國外輕軌
: 無聲,高雄輕軌進站嗶!嗶!嗶!,在人口密集地方像美術館將對住戶生活品質有許多影響
: ,「我反應了美術館許多皇苑建設大樓社區共同心聲,建議輕軌做到C18鼓山站就好,不
: 要再延伸至市區。」
: (葉家銘/高雄報導)
: https://tw.finance.appledaily.com/realtime/20181128/1474280/
--
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